RobbinsDad
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Like every D23 in the Iger era.So, I guess D23 next year will see a whole lot more of the "this is maybe, possibly what we're thinking about doing... but maybe not..."
Like every D23 in the Iger era.So, I guess D23 next year will see a whole lot more of the "this is maybe, possibly what we're thinking about doing... but maybe not..."
True. But the bigger question is how does the downturn in attendance factor in if it doesn't improve? Do they start significant investment in WDW because the attendance is down and they want to get it back up, or do they transition a lot of this money to other parks?
It's hard to say. Previously they would have scaled back if revenue projections drop... but if they have attendance drops that coincide with EU opening then that might send things a different way. Plus it all depends on the whether we hit a recession in short order or squeeze through. I am more of a pixie duster so I see the glass half full here.
More to your point I don't think the money goes to other parks. I think they either spend what they planned in Orlando or they simply cut back.
I'm not sure what Iger said, but I think that $6 billion for FY24 is total capital expenditures.So... again...
$60B in 10 years is $6B a year.
In the quarterly call, Bob said they're increasing next year's capex on Experiences up to $6B.
So... that "backloading of capex" toward the end of the next decade actually isn't happening if they're going to spend $6B in the next fiscal year.
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That includes DCL, doesn't it? And a new DVC at Disneyland? Their results straight said there was a decrease at WDW. Admittedly didn't hear the call so the bullet points don't really make a ton of sense to me, but it definitely says "A decrease at Walt Disney World Resort." So much is wrapped up in Parks and Experiences at this point, it's tough to distinguish for me at least.Domestic parks made more net profit this quarter than last quarter. And more profit than last year's 4Q.
If WDW was down, that mean DLR made up the difference.
So, WDW couldn't have gone down that much. It's not like they're scraping by. Domestic parks net profited $0.8B in one quarter alone. And that's twice as much as all the international parks.
So, money isn't going to go away from WDW. They want that profit driver to be operating full bore. We'll see way 2024's "free dining" can do to goose attendance, as well as the throttling back of reservations.
Yeah. WDW is only getting $17B of that $60B.That includes DCL, doesn't it? And a new DVC at Disneyland? Their results straight said there was a decrease at WDW. Admittedly didn't hear the call so the bullet points don't really make a ton of sense to me, but it definitely says "A decrease at Walt Disney World Resort." So much is wrapped up in Parks and Experiences at this point, it's tough to distinguish for me at least.
Hopefully a lot. I am waiting for WDW popcorn buckets to be on par with Tokyo.I wonder how much will go into cupcake and popcorn bucket R&D investment?
Nothing in WDW will EVER be on par with Tokyo.Hopefully a lot. I am waiting for WDW popcorn buckets to be on par with Tokyo.
I wonder how much will go into cupcake and popcorn bucket R&D investment?
Where did you read or hear that?Yeah. WDW is only getting $17B of that $60B.
That $60 billion figure is the total they currently plan to spend worldwide over the next 10 years.Where did you read or hear that?
Since the $17 billion for WDW was reported well before the legal documents declaring a strategy change to spend $60 billion on experiences, WDW may be getting more.
And as we've seen in the last few posts, there will be plenty of spending on Experiences, even from right now. Iger meant that there would be a further increase in five years to get a total $60 billion.
The Walt Disney Company is developing plans to accelerate and expand investment in its Parks, Experiences and Products segment to nearly double capital expenditures over the course of approximately 10 years to roughly $60 billion, including by investing in expanding and enhancing domestic and international parks and cruise line capacity.
Yes.That $60 billion figure is the total they currently plan to spend worldwide over the next 10 years.
Disney plans to expand parks investment to $60 billion over 10 years
Disney plans to expand parks investment to $60 billion over 10 yearswww.wdwmagic.com
I'm not sure what Iger said, but I think that $6 billion for FY24 is total capital expenditures.
They're saying they're going to spend around $4.1 billion on Experiences (resorts, parks, ships, etc.) which is what they spent in FY19 (third bullet point).
They're spending $1 billion more than FY23 ($5 billion), and that extra billion is going to go to the parks (second bullet point). They spent $3 billion on Experiences FY23, so that means $4 billion on Experiences in FY24 ($4.1 billion-ish, since they referred to FY19).
I sense miscommunication here, since we seem to be in violent agreement.
Yes.
It looks like around $4 billion a year now.
In five years, that will ramp up, to give around $60 billion total for the ten year period.
I'm saying I think the $17 billion for WDW came from the $4 billion a year spending, over ten years.
Don't worry: no one said that.There isn’t going to be $60 billion spent on WDW over the next 10 years. I’ll just leave it at that.
Nobody is saying there is…There isn’t going to be $60 billion spent on WDW over the next 10 years. I’ll just leave it at that.
We are talking a DVC tower at all three All-Stars!Nobody is saying there is…
The $60B is the spend for the whole segment which includes the parks and cruise line (and consumer products). WDW will only get a fraction of that of course - they’ve said $17B before and tgat was prior to the splashy $60B announcement that was touted as an increase in investment.
$17B over a decade would still be a massive amount of CapEx for WDW.
You don't have to guess where this comes from. Most of us know.I'm saying I think the $17 billion for WDW came from the $4 billion a year spending, over ten years.
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