News Disney plans to accelerate Parks investment to $60 billion over 10 years

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wdwfan4ver

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ToTBellHop said:
Cherry picking a bit? Ignoring Pandora, TSL, SWGE, MMRR, Rat, and GotG? All extremely popular.
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Pandora is the best land mentioned.

TSL is underwhelming although it is a little bit better now than when the land first open. Having BBQ place does help the land a little and the Queue for Slinky Dog is not as bad for shade as it was when it was first opened.

SWGE is not a great land and I think it is based on personal taste to a point. The land is locked on a certain period in the Star Wars Universe and Rise of the Resistance is known to breakdown. Don't try to play "spin doctor" on Rise of the Resistance because there is no excuse for it including Kylo in "B Mode".

MMRR is decent. Rat is a copy of a decent ride. GOTG still has that stupid virtual queue.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Nubs70 said:
But when Bob believes he is invincible, he really does not care.
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Good thing he doesn't think he's invincible when he took the blame:
  • for making SGE the sequels
  • for rushing out Solo
  • for spending too much on content in the Great Streaming War
  • for letting studios churn out stuff during the pandemic without proper supervision
 
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capsshield

Active Member
When a person starts a business they have to take huge risks and investments.

As a business grows the risks and investments are easier to digest.
Disney however has completely lost this spirit of risk and investment due to placing more value on its stock than working to satisfy its customers old and new.

Clearly the profits wdw makes each year is more than enough to expand those parks, and yet the profits are diverted into many other avenues like cruise ships, and disney plus, or buying other studios.

By diversifying the nest they have built a company to big to fail, but it came at the cost of the parks upkeep and expansion.

Each division needs to begin to rise or fall on its own merits no mater how painful it may be to some divisions.

The days of diverting funds needs to stop.

The days of overpaying upper management need to stop.

The days of prioritizing stock value over the risks of investment need to stop.

Will there be failures yes. Will there be successes yes.

A good leader knows how to calm and brave the storms and steer their ship into new territories and frontiers.

I look at how they have decided to cut back the Marvel movies and Disney plus shows because they say it's a quality over quantity issue.

Not really though, it's too much woke for the sake of woke and straying too far from the comics. Also using "b and c" level characters and expecting "a" level performance is unrealistic.

The only "a" level character they have used is Thor and Loki and he's a villian. So instead of giving us "a" level we get poor leadership decisions and then reduced output. The whole company runs like that because the board of directors wants control over its upper management not someone that fights for risks.

When it comes to the parks The reason everything is IP based is so they can sell highly profitable products.

The reason we now get themed lands is because they can sell more food and products.

I personally think the parks are like a gateway drug, and the movies are like the first ones free fix and we line up to introduce our kids to the insanity.
 
Dan Deesnee

Dan Deesnee

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wdwfan4ver said:
Pandora is the best land mentioned.

TSL is underwhelming although it is a little bit better now than when the land first open. Having BBQ place does help the land a little and the Queue for Slinky Dog is not as bad for shade as it was when it was first opened.

SWGE is not a great land and I think it is based on personal taste to a point. The land is locked on a certain period in the Star Wars Universe and Rise of the Resistance is known to breakdown. Don't try to play "spin doctor" on Rise of the Resistance because there is no excuse for it including Kylo in "B Mode".

MMRR is decent. Rat is a copy of a decent ride. GOTG still has that stupid virtual queue.
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Spot on. SWGE is mediocre and I really hope any new lands that they do as part of these new expansions are significantly better.

And don't even get me started on rise of the resistance. It's an 8 out of 10 at best. The ride almost NEVER operates correctly. It has one thrilling moment and that's the drop at the end. And also has some cool tech here and there but overall as a ride it just isn't that great. You basically scoot around, get shot at a couple of times and then do the drop pod sequence. The guns at the end with the big war going on outside the windows would be cool, if the guns ever actually moved back and forth like they're supposed to. I've rode that ride 10 times. 1 time one of the guns was working. Every other time none of them moved at all and we just did a weird stop start motion.
 
flyerjab

flyerjab

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ToTBellHop said:
Actually, some of the entertainment will better utilize existing park spaces and pull guests out of ride queues. Of course, these are just deferred additions that should have been here years ago…like for the forgettable 50th?

But, 2025 should be better for park visitors than 2024 so that’s nice?
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What 2025 entertainment are you referring to?
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
𝕴𝖒𝖆𝖌𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖊𝖗97 said:
When did he ever acknowledge that was a mistake?
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Sorry, I don't have the citation handy, but he did say he thought they should go with the sequels and he approved it based on TFA bringing in $2B Box Office. This was said mostly to protect Kennedy who was getting all the heat and people calling for her ouster. He made it clear it was his decision (too).

Kooky conspiracy theories had Kennedy railroading "Disney" (as if "Disney" wasn't mainly her boss, Iger); or secretly springing the sequel setting all on her own into the parks. And thus, according to reliable internet sources, she was about to be fired.

Six years later...
 
Dan Deesnee

Dan Deesnee

Well-Known Member
MisterPenguin said:
Sorry, I don't have the citation handy, but he did say he thought they should go with the sequels and he approved it based on TFA bringing in $2B Box Office. This was said mostly to protect Kennedy who was getting all the heat and people calling for her ouster. He made it clear it was his decision (too).

Kooky conspiracy theories had Kennedy railroading "Disney" (as if "Disney" wasn't mainly her boss, Iger); or secretly springing the sequel setting all on her own into the parks. And thus, according to reliable internet sources, she was about to be fired.

Six years later...
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I remember reading this as well.

The smart thing to do would have been to do both. Look at how epic universe is combining all these completely different intellectual properties. They're using these portals. How hard would it have been to do three parts to the land or even just two and have each part be dedicated to a specific era of movies? Not hard at all...
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Badtuu is very well built….but it’s not themed well. It harps on the least interesting of the Star Wars plotlines - namely deserts (boring), spaceports, pirates/smugglers and anything Disney made themselves.

If only they owned and had full rights to the entire catalogue? Pity
 
Marc Davis Fan

Marc Davis Fan

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As someone who's willing to be very critical of Disney's design decisions, I'm have to chime in on SWGE:

I find it to be one of the most compelling and satisfying lands that Disney has ever done.
  • The realism, attention to detail, and depth is equal or beyond their best work anywhere (and I have been to DisneySEA). You can explore so many nooks and crannies, examine layers of history, etc., and it truly feels lived-in.
  • The rockwork is some of the best they've ever done, with a great sense of scale and distance.
  • The Millennium Falcon reveal from either direction is jaw-dropping.
  • Rise of the Resistance is groundbreaking for the extent that it's a multi-part experience, and is a world-class dark ride.
Needless to say, it's not without faults. Most notably, it lacks the planned kinetics, and it's also lacking the "architecture of reassurance" that's usually a staple of Disney environments. And, of course, I would have preferred it to take place during the original trilogy period. And obviously they didn't intend RotR's technically problems. But, in own my personal and humble opinion, it is on the whole a phenomenal accomplishment and one of my favorite lands to spend time in.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Marc Davis Fan said:
As someone who's willing to be very critical of Disney's design decisions, I'm have to chime in on SWGE:

I find it to be one of the most compelling and satisfying lands that Disney has ever done.
  • The realism, attention to detail, and depth is equal or beyond their best work anywhere (and I have been to DisneySEA). You can explore so many nooks and crannies, examine layers of history, etc., and it truly feels lived-in.
  • The rockwork is some of the best they've ever done, with a great sense of scale and distance.
  • The Millennium Falcon reveal from either direction is jaw-dropping.
  • Rise of the Resistance is groundbreaking for the extent that it's a multi-part experience, and is a world-class dark ride.
Needless to say, it's not without faults. Most notably, it lacks the planned kinetics, and it's also lacking the "architecture of reassurance" that's usually a staple of Disney environments. And, of course, I would have preferred it to take place during the original trilogy period. And obviously they didn't intend RotR's technically problems. But, in own my personal and humble opinion, it is on the whole a phenomenal accomplishment and one of my favorite lands to spend time in.
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Your negatives basically offset the positives…you’re back to par ⛳️🏌🏼
 
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J4546

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I really like the ambience of GE as well, love seeing the rocks that seem so far away in the distance and the sounds esp at night when walking around the RISE area. Glad they ditched the strict timeline and you can see classic character more often walking around, at least in DL, not sure about DHS
 

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