News Disney plans to accelerate Parks investment to $60 billion over 10 years

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MouseEarsMom33

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I'm new to this board so sorry if this has been discussed before. Has Disney had construction limitations due to EPIC Universe taking a lot of resources? The timing is interesting that as EPIC Universe construction winds down, Disney construction will ramp up quickly.
 
MagicHappens1971

MagicHappens1971

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MouseEarsMom33 said:
I'm new to this board so sorry if this has been discussed before. Has Disney had construction limitations due to EPIC Universe taking a lot of resources? The timing is interesting that as EPIC Universe construction winds down, Disney construction will ramp up quickly.
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I could be wrong but I’m willing to bet no. Disneys limitations are self limited. They were contributing a large amount of resources to expanding D+ and didn’t have the excess funds to a lot to CAPex projects for the parks. Now that D+ will be profitable this year, they do.
 
Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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While it's encouraging that Disney is willing to invest much more into the parks now, and show true behind-the-scenes material, my interest is tempered knowing that many of the root problems with management and WDI remain.

For me, the new projects don't necessarily assure me that concerns about sightlines, capacity, operations and basic attraction design are given any more consideration. The last thing WDW needs is another giant box that moves 1800 people an hour on a good day. Yes, this time it may be true expansion, but anything added should enhance the park, not detract from it...or compensate for something else being closed.

That it's still IP only may be predictable and unsurprising, but it's disappointing when you think of what potential was out there for new ideas with this level of investment. We're finally getting back to the kind of investment WDW got 30 years ago...but it feels like it's to benefit the promotion of Disney+ more than the actual resort.

If spending x results in a net gain of only a handful of new build rides across WDW, that's another problem. Each of these expansions should have all manner of experiences, dining, live entertainment etc. Money may not go as far as it used to, but spending upwards of $500 million on one ride is unsustainable and undermining the future of the parks' growth.

Then there's the things that are still yet to be resolved. Things that have sat empty or unfinished for many years already. No replacements for previous entrainment cuts. Show quality issues. Improvements to rides that were not really improvements (like flash photos on HM). Space Mountain was supposed to be re-tracked 15 years ago...I'm hoping some of these billions will go into all that.

Big flashy new headliners are easy to sell and drum up excitement, but I again stress that the basics can't be forgotten, especially as construction impacts the guest experience in the short term.

With all that said, I would be more than happy to be proven wrong and have Disney deliver and then some.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Animaniac93-98 said:
While it's encouraging that Disney is willing to invest much more into the parks now, and show true behind-the-scenes material, my interest is tempered knowing that many of the root problems with management and WDI remain.

For me, the new projects don't necessarily assure me that concerns about sightlines, capacity, operations and basic attraction design are given any more consideration. The last thing WDW needs is another giant box that moves 1800 people an hour on a good day. Yes, this time it may be true expansion, but anything added should enhance the park, not detract from it...or compensate for something else being closed.

That it's still IP only may be predictable and unsurprising, but it's disappointing when you think of what potential was out there for new ideas with this level of investment. We're finally getting back to the kind of investment WDW got 30 years ago...but it feels like it's to benefit the promotion of Disney+ more than the actual resort.

If spending x results in a net gain of only a handful of new build rides across WDW, that's another problem. Each of these expansions should have all manner of experiences, dining, live entertainment etc. Money may not go as far as it used to, but spending upwards of $500 million on one ride is unsustainable and undermining the future of the parks' growth.

Then there's the things that are still yet to be resolved. Things that have sat empty or unfinished for many years already. No replacements for previous entrainment cuts. Show quality issues. Improvements to rides that were not really improvements (like flash photos on HM). Space Mountain was supposed to be re-tracked 15 years ago...I'm hoping some of these billions will go into all that.

Big flashy new headliners are easy to sell and drum up excitement, but I again stress that the basics can't be forgotten, especially as construction impacts the guest experience in the short term.

With all that said, I would be more than happy to be proven wrong and have Disney deliver and then some.
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Yeah…if they’re gonna slow roll minilands again…and doing it to take out older stuff like they’re so “sneaky”…the days in the parks won’t improve much. It has to be things at all the “levels”
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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MouseEarsMom33 said:
I'm new to this board so sorry if this has been discussed before. Has Disney had construction limitations due to EPIC Universe taking a lot of resources? The timing is interesting that as EPIC Universe construction winds down, Disney construction will ramp up quickly.
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Not exactly. But there has and will assuredly be some creative transition off the Epic project to WDI. Primarily because WDI is so actively poaching and in particular Florida natives will have far more job security on Disney. Not because Universal is stopping investment in Florida, but they’ll be investing less comparatively to the bolus that is Epic.

The Nintendo project team is likely transitioning Florida projects and almost everyone else to Universal Great Britain or WDI.
 
MagicHappens1971

MagicHappens1971

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Who cares what they call things? It’s based on a ticket system that’s been defunct for 40 years.

Please…dear soul…don’t lecture on “internal” stuff? Most of it is crap to keep the kids in line.

Judge only what you can touch as a tourist. It is literally all that matters.
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I’m not lecturing. It is a fact, it’s not an arbitrary thing. Disney uses these designations to decide the “caliber” of an attraction.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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BrianLo said:
Not exactly. But there has and will assuredly be some creative transition off the Epic project to WDI. Primarily because WDI is so actively poaching and in particular Florida natives will have far more job security on Disney. Not because Universal is stopping investment in Florida, but they’ll be investing less comparatively to the bolus that is Epic.

The Nintendo project team is likely transitioning Florida projects and almost everyone else to Universal Great Britain or WDI.
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…ummm

Are you saying Disney is overpaying people to work down the road? As in there’s tangible proof of that?

That would be a nice change if true…reversing a 15 year trend.
 

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