Disney partners with Trevor Project

[Clever Name]

I doubt any CM's would jeopardize their job by breaking character by discussing their personal buisness with you. Therefore I'm almost certain you won't have to worry about going to managment to share your issue! :wave:

That is exactly my point. Nick_A's comment made no sense. To wit:

Originally Posted by Nick_A
Anyone that a has a "problem" with members of the LGBT community really ought to re-think a vacation to Walt Disney World, of all places.

This self righteousness gets old. :wave:

 

[ShookieJones]

And if people remained "neutral" 50 years ago, we'd still have segregation in this country too. People need to stand up and say something because the fight for equality of LGBT peoples is the same basic, human civil rights issue that women have faced, African Americans have faced and other minority groups have faced. It's only by NOT staying silent do we get as a country get over these petty bigotries and reasons to hate.

Good for Disney for adding their voice to this project.

Perfectly said Miss M.


Great video. Great Cause.

 

[Zummi Gummi]

That is exactly my point. Nick_A's comment made no sense. To wit:

Originally Posted by Nick_A
Anyone that a has a "problem" with members of the LGBT community really ought to re-think a vacation to Walt Disney World, of all places.

This self righteousness gets old. :wave:

Please explain what about my post confused you. I'll try to explain it again, using simpler language. :wave:

Also, please clarify what exactly is self-righteous about it. :wave:

 

[JLW11Hi]

Clever_Name: I believe Nick meant that going to WDW and being against homosexuality is morally hypocritical, not that CMs openly talk to guests about their sexuality.

 

[AEfx]

I'm thinking Disney really should've stayed neutral on this one. Nobody wants to see young people commiting suicide but that rainbow logo at the end looks like full on support of something A LOT of families are uncomfortable with.

If they are uncomfortable with Disney for working for equal rights, then they aren't very up on Disney's doings.

Disney was one of the first companies, way back in the 90's, that offered employee benefits to ALL workers and their partner/spouse/etc. They were quite groundbreaking in that.

And when you figure all the singers, songwriters, animators, and everyone from up and down the food chain that leads to the production of theme parks and animated films Disney has always been a company that valued diversity.

If people have a problem with Disney providing equal benefits for employees, or giving support to campaigns against abusive behavior, not exactly the type of guest I would want to encourage to go to WDW anyway.

 

[AEfx]

The word bigot can go many ways, remember that, it's a hypocritical word.

No, it's not.

Some have tried to spin it that way, but "my beliefs" is not an excuse to discriminate against people.

People can "believe" anything they want, but when they use it as an excuse to deny rights to others, that's when it's being a bigot. Defending yourself and your rights and pointing out this fact does not make one a bigot themselves.

Only in the minds of bigots does that thought compute.

 

[Clever Name]

Please explain what about my post confused you. I'll try to explain it again, using simpler language. :wave:

Also, please clarify what exactly is self-righteous about it. :wave:

You seem to think that you have some sort of moral superiority in suggesting that homophobic bigots should (in your words), ” …re-think a vacation to Walt Disney World, of all places.” I don’t really want to know the political, religious or sexual preferences of anyone at WDW. That is their own business and they should keep it private. Perhaps we should break down all the guests at WDW based upon their race, religion, political beliefs and suggest that certain people should not visit because their ideas just don’t sound right.

You and I may not like intolerant people, but they still have every right to visit WDW. Perhaps you would desire to publish the percentage of LGBT community members who are employed at WDW to scare off all the homophobes? Also, being condescending in your reply does not help. It just shows that you are being holier-than-thou in your approach to this discussion. :wave:

 

[MickeyPeace]

It seems that Clever Name is here to stir the pot because he doesn't like that Disney is supporting this cause. To respond to him at this point (after having given him a fair shake) benefits no one but Clever Name. I recommend not giving any more attention to his words.

Earlier this year someone respected in the Disney community brought to my attention some hateful words that a blogger had published about Gay Days. I decided to write a post on my blog addressing the issue of gays and Disney.

I think it's worth another read.

http://wdwprince.com/?p=3520

 

[uklad79]

It's good to see Disney backing an issue which shouldn't even exist in a moral world where kids should be able to be themselves and not have to suffer the bigotry of adults which is passed down the generations.



Why does it matter if someone is gay or straight? How does it affect your life? Who said that some of the same ______ should not be together? If people didn't have an old story book to refer back to they would not have an opinion on it.

At the end of the day if your kid is straight or gay they didn't choose it was genetics.

 

[Mouse Wizard]

Good to see Disney jump on this particular bandwagon

 

[Mickey_777]

And if people remained "neutral" 50 years ago, we'd still have segregation in this country too. People need to stand up and say something because the fight for equality of LGBT peoples is the same basic, human civil rights issue that women have faced, African Americans have faced and other minority groups have faced. It's only by NOT staying silent do we get as a country get over these petty bigotries and reasons to hate.

Good for Disney for adding their voice to this project.

I've heard african americans on so many opportunities flip out at this comparison. It's nowhere near the same thing. Think about it.

And it's precisely that reason (people choosing to stay neutral or silent) that kids are committing suicide.



Thank you. I love how often people forget that. I applaud Disney for standing by so many of its employees and for coming out in support of an issue that might not be popular in all parts of the country.



Again, thank you for pointing out the obvious.



This entire discussion is pointless if you're not going to watch the entire clip.

Since when did Disney of all things become the voice on what's right and wrong. My goodness this is going downhill fast.

 

[invader]

No, it's not.

Some have tried to spin it that way, but "my beliefs" is not an excuse to discriminate against people.

People can "believe" anything they want, but when they use it as an excuse to deny rights to others, that's when it's being a bigot. Defending yourself and your rights and pointing out this fact does not make one a bigot themselves.

Only in the minds of bigots does that thought compute.

Did I ever discriminate against someone? :shrug:

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Since when did Disney of all things become the voice on what's right and wrong.

Since they decided to take a stance on this particlar "issue"*. It's clear from the video that the official company stance is "we support LGBT persons". If you or anyone else disagrees with that, it would be wise not to give any future business to them, or talk to them directly about your concerns.

*Which is a non-issue for many of Disney spenders.

 

[Tigger1988]

You seem to think that you have some sort of moral superiority in suggesting that homophobic bigots should (in your words), ” …re-think a vacation to Walt Disney World, of all places.” I don’t really want to know the political, religious or sexual preferences of anyone at WDW. That is their own business and they should keep it private. Perhaps we should break down all the guests at WDW based upon their race, religion, political beliefs and suggest that certain people should not visit because their ideas just don’t sound right.

You're over complicating (probably on purpose) a very simple statement. If someone is uncomfortable with homosexuality WHY would they choose to vacation in a place where they're surrounded by it?

Disney is one of the most gay friendly vacation destinations in more ways than one. And people don't need to be screaming 'I'M GAY" from the rooftops for it to be so.

 

[Mickey_777]

WHY would they choose to vacation in a place where they're surrounded by it?

Are you though? I've never noticed it while at WDW honestly. DL is another story.

 

[uklad79]

Are you though? I've never noticed it while at WDW honestly. DL is another story.

Well then that's a sign it has zero affect on your life if people around you are gay because WDW is packed with gays and you haven't noticed. Not every gay is camp and effeminate which is what your actually seeing.

 

[JustInTime]

Disney is the Gayest place on earth. And I am so glad they are now publicly fighting bullying. This makes me want to speed up my trip planning for 2012...while boycotting Chick Fil A. haha

 

[Mickey_777]

WDW is packed with gays

Disney is the Gayest place on earth.

Many would refer to this as "reaching". Unless you're being sarcastic that is.

 

[Captain Hank]

Many would refer to this as "reaching". Unless you're being sarcastic that is.

Many who actually work there would not consider this "reaching." :shrug:


Just as many Guests go to Walt Disney World to escape the pressures and stresses of the "real" world, many Cast Members come to work at WDW to escape many of the things highlighted in the video that was posted. When I came to work at WDW (admittedly, not for that particular reason), I was happily surprised how committed the Company was to diversity in all of its forms. I've learned how to interact with fellow Cast Members with numerous cultural, religious and personal backgrounds, and am proud to have made many of them my close friends.

 

[Mickey_777]

Many who actually work there would not consider this "reaching." :shrug:


Just as many Guests go to Walt Disney World to escape the pressures and stresses of the "real" world, many Cast Members come to work at WDW to escape many of the things highlighted in the video that was posted. When I came to work at WDW (admittedly, not for that particular reason), I was happily surprised how committed the Company was to diversity in all of its forms. I've learned how to interact with fellow Cast Members with numerous cultural, religious and personal backgrounds, and am proud to have made many of them my close friends.

Oh I get that but to say it's the gayest or packed with gays...a bit of a stretch I think.