News Disney Park Pass System announced for Walt Disney World theme park reservations

Disstevefan1

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I think this latest WDW lawsuit will result in changes to the entire WDW AP program.
Will there be APs? Probably, but it will be too pricey for the locals

Mission accomplished!
 

monothingie

U i$ tH3 M@g!K
Premium Member
Im speculating that AP purchases resume for DVC and locals and anyone who wants a platinum equivalent, with a price hike of course. Resort Guests or select resort guests will be able to hop or bypass park reservation. Non resort guests will have to pay extra to hop and/or still be limited to park pass.
If there is any confusion, make sure to please consult the dictionary sized Disney vacation instruction manual.
 

ToTBellHop

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I think this latest WDW lawsuit will result in changes to the entire WDW AP program.
Will there be APs? Probably, but it will be too pricey for the locals

Mission accomplished!
They don’t mind locals on quiet days. They could keep the lowest two tiers for Floridians and only allow the top two tiers to be purchased with a resort package or DVC blue card. They don’t want locals stopping by the park during Christmas Week (because they are bored) and spending nothing.
 

Jrb1979

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They don’t mind locals on quiet days. They could keep the lowest two tiers for Floridians and only allow the top two tiers to be purchased with a resort package or DVC blue card. They don’t want locals stopping by the park during Christmas Week (because they are bored) and spending nothing.
I can see that happening. Right now that's the only pass available.
 

ToTBellHop

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IMO no matter what decision they come to, I'm sure it's going to be complicated to figure out. It's the one thing I don't understand, why do they like to make things so complex
Agreed…I understand how the park reservations allow for matching staffing to demand, but they can gather that info from monitoring resort bookings in central Florida.

At a minimum, drop reservations for those on-site. It is easy to ensure adequate staffing for that type of guest since Disney has absolute numbers and, I presume, they don’t want to be irritating those guests. It is asinine to be on site and unable to get into a park.

Genie+ is a whole other issue.
 

MagicHappens1971

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At a minimum, drop reservations for those on-site. It is easy to ensure adequate staffing for that type of guest since Disney has absolute numbers and, I presume, they don’t want to be irritating those guests. It is asinine to be on site and unable to get into a park.
Especially because 9/10 if you’re staying at a Disney resort and you go to the front desk about not being able to get a reservation they will work some “pixie dust” for you
 

SoFloMagic

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I think this latest WDW lawsuit will result in changes to the entire WDW AP program.
Will there be APs? Probably, but it will be too pricey for the locals

Mission accomplished!
It didn't at Disneyland.

And the terms are pretty clear. Any passes from post-2020 are contingent on slots. I don't like it, but I signed the contract so I deal.

I don't know who these people think they are suing because they don't like a policy they agreed to.
 

SoFloMagic

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The corporation literally told us more than once they do not like APs
They told us they don't like an unfavorable mix of APs. I think that's an important distinction. I mean who wouldn't like that $50-80/month subscription business?

So if you like the $$ we bring, but don't want us crowding... you create ParkPass.
 

Jrb1979

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They told us they don't like an unfavorable mix of APs. I think that's an important distinction. I mean who wouldn't like that $50-80/month subscription business?

So if you like the $$ we bring, but don't want us crowding... you create ParkPass.
What they would like is the money from the APs but also them to not show up
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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I think the chance of Disney cancelling APs is 0%! They’ll limit the number of APs, raise the prices, stop new sales, etc but they aren’t going to cancel them or even discontinue them.

They had the perfect opportunity to end the program a year ago, instead they brought it back, that tells me everything I need to know.

DL has had a similar lawsuit for nearly a year, Disney made adjustments to the keys and changed the fine print, that’s the most likely outcome in FL also.
 

SingleRider

Premium Member
I think the chance of Disney cancelling APs is 0%! They’ll limit the number of APs, raise the prices, stop new sales, etc but they aren’t going to cancel them or even discontinue them.

They had the perfect opportunity to end the program a year ago, instead they brought it back, that tells me everything I need to know.

DL has had a similar lawsuit for nearly a year, Disney made adjustments to the keys and changed the fine print, that’s the most likely outcome in FL also.
Agree. They could change the terms. If needed, they could offer current APs the option to agree to the new terms or cancel and.get a prorated refund for the remaining time on their AP, similar to when they first reopened from Covid and took away park hopping temporarily.
 

Fido Chuckwagon

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"A pair of Florida residents are suing Disney, claiming the company is unfairly treating its annual passholders who cannot get reservations into the park.

Annual passholders must make advance reservations, even if their passes have no blockout dates. But the lawsuit filed anonymously by an Orange County resident “M.P.” and Palm Beach County resident “E.K.” says on some days, reservation slots are full for passholders while Disney continues to sell single-day tickets to welcome in other guests.

“Disney’s conduct is a predatory business practice, aimed at exploiting the customers who support it the most, its annual pass holders. Disney abused a global pandemic to take advantage of its own loyal customers and increase its revenue,” said the lawsuit filed Tuesday in U.S. District Court’s Orlando division.

According to the lawsuit, M.P. paid $633 per pass for her and her family, while E.K.’s pass was on a monthly installment plan of about $68 per month. Both had been going to Disney World for years and bought their passes with the expectation they could get access 365 days a year and not have to plan their trips in advance.

Disney was sued in similar fashion by unhappy Disneyland annual passholders in 2021. The lawsuit is still ongoing.

Neither Disney nor the attorneys representing M.P. and E.K. responded to a request for comment Wednesday.

Disney has lifted the majority of its COVID-19 restrictions as Disney World, but the reservation system remains one of the measures born out of 2020.

Disney has indicated the reservation system isn’t likely to end anytime soon.

In March 2022, Walt Disney Company’s chief financial officer Christine McCarthy made it clear the reservation system was an important part of park operations.

“Now, we needed that (reservation system) when we were limited — severely limited in capacity, when the government restrictions were such that you could only allow 10%, 20%, 25%,” McCarthy said at a financial conference.

“But then we saw that we could actually use this, even when the restrictions were lifted, that we know how many people are going to the park on a given day. And if they filled up a certain amount or how many reservations would be left for people just walking up at the last minute, but it allows us to better balance load throughout the year, throughout the week, throughout the month.”

Some Disney fans have felt slighted over the company’s attitude toward their annual passes.

“Typically, someone who travels and stays for five days to seven days is marginally more valuable to the business than someone who comes in on an annual pass and stays a day or two and consumes less merchandise and food and beverage,” Disney CEO Bob Chapek said in 2020.

However, Disney’s strategy is pleasing Wall Street. The parks are big moneymakers coming out of the pandemic despite limiting attendance and not selling new annual passes."

This was inevitable.
 

Fido Chuckwagon

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Disney is highly unlikely to cancel any existing memberships/affiliations that would trigger a refund. If they change the program that much, they'll let existing APs run their course. Significant changes to ticketing are coming late this year/early next year.
This lawsuit should be a shot across their bow with some of the changes that were being discussed (like the BS evening entry park reservations for AP holders.). Or the plan to eliminate park pass requirements for day tickets but keep them for AP’s.
 

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