Chef Mickey
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I'd love to pay double to half the crowd and improve maintenance.
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Disney Overcrowding: Hike Rates or Expand...what will they do?
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draybook
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The sad part is that I was waiting on you to chime in with your usual superior comments about raising prices. It's already priced WAY higher than many comparable vacation locations. If you don't like the riff-raff like us that frequent it then maybe YOU should try another location?
/edit: I hope I don't come off as a jerk, I'm certainly not trying. I just get a vibe from you that you seem condescending as if people who have to scrimp and save don't deserve the chance to go. If that's false then my apologies for coming on too strong about the whole thing.
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disney4life2008
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Wait in 1984 a MK ticket costed $18 and in 1994 it costed $38 and they complain that it was a 112% increase, lol. Am I reading this wrong? I was there in 1994 and I thought a one day ticket was at least $70.
disney4life2008
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Honestly, Frozen is not making it any better. There is absolutely nothing for boys - yes please debate me. Teens and young adult males there is plenty because you are old enough to experience all of the world. But for boys the bell curve is tilted towards girls. Honestly, if I had a son below the age of 7 I doubt I would take him to WDW unless he had a sister. Like others, I would gladly take my son to Universal Orlando. Little boys want to see Spiderman and every Marvel character. Disney can easily capitalize on the boy market - but as others said - it will not happen. And with this Frozen takeoever - things will only get worse
Just curious as to what you consider comparable?
DManRightHere
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A combination of both.
Mr. Moderate
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In answering your question, apparently yes, unless it's a dvc, then Disney has no problem in building them and doing it fairly quickly too. It seems to me, that the Disney company is very reluctant to invest in their parks, unless they absolutely have to and only want guaranteed, instant revenue generators like DVC, meet and greets, and places like BOG, which is a combination of restaurant and M&G. If it's actual rides, new lands (which would help with overcrowding), talk of new parks, forget it. I watched as the FLE was announced years ago and proceeded at a snails pace, yet GF DVC was announced 2 years later and was built at a quick pace. Look at the rate the Polynesian DVC is being constructed, still the official opening of the mine train ride isn't until May 28th. Way too long was taken in giving the guest a actual ride and something other than a M&G. California Adventure got expanded and rebuilt because lets face it, the original park was built on the cheap, an embarrassment, and the company knew it had to be done. It was well done, but sadly they stopped at fixing the Hollywood section and doing any more work in general. Too bad because it really could be special if they continued adding to the quality of the park and more top shelf attractions. It's seems to me that building new attractions to the upper management, is like a trip to dentist office. It's something you know that has to be done, but you dread doing it, hate it, and keep putting it off, causing more problems down the road by ignoring it in the first place. JMHO.
As a former diehard fan of the parks, I have grown weary of the direction the company has gone and the talk of raising prices to stop over crowding makes me want to laugh and cry a little at the same time. Regardless of the situation, the prices will go up every year without fail, bank on it, and the company knows they can keep treating their fan base as poorly as they want because we keep coming back and asking for more. It costs a lot of money to go to any Disney park and when I visited DLR last summer, I bought my family of 4, 3 day park hoppers and it came to just about 1K. That's not cheap by any means and I fully expect the prices to be going up, so I don't look at going to Disney as affordable and something everybody can do.
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draybook
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A trip to Hawaii for our family of four. Pretty much anything that involves traveling to the destination. That doesn't even including food, rental car, etc..
erstwo
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I have a son in this age group. He could care less about any of the super heros. Honestly, nearly all of the movies are aimed at a 25 year old male with their
I have a son in this age range. Honestly, while he is a stereotypical 'American male,' he could care less about superheroes. Most of those movies are aimed at 25 year olds with their PG-13 ratings. No way is my son watching those until he's old enough.
However, he loves Frozen and WDW. He's never bored, although he does have his favorite rides/ activities and prefers to stand to the side while his sister meets the princesses.
He does love Harry Potter, (books, not movies) so he enjoys that aspect of Universal.
I too have complete faith that we will see a Star Wars land within the decade. I'm convinced it will be a fifth gate, but I have very little to back that up.
Maybe that will solve any perceived lack of boy things at WDW. (Oooh - and even though we've aged out of it - a Carsland. PLEASE a Carsland - if you're listening out there WDW!
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Chef Mickey
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With current management, yes.
I almost wish Disney were not a public company. Answering the shareholders is really bringing down the parks.
jencor
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I do not think over pricing us is what is driving me away. It is that there seems to be less excitement because there is not that much to do. We have right now a 10 day non expiring park hopper that we have used on two different trips and still have 7 days available on it. One time we did the Christmas party and split a day at DHS and Epcot. The other time we went to all 4 parks in 2 days and got everything we wanted to do in. We now spend time at the other parks, Universal and SW. What Disney will do by driving prices too high is teach the public that there are other choices and they will get into a habit of doing other things and when Disney is ready to bring back bigger crowds, they may not come back like they want. What they have to do is keep building and if they keep building they will come. In other words, I say build and that will help giving reason to charging more, otherwise the crowds will disappear on their own.
Animaniac93-98
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Disney offers plenty of attractions that appeal to 7 year old boys (like BTM, Pirates, Space, HM) but when theme parks are sold as character/brand places such facts get lost in the marketing.
So long as Disney sticks to this strategy, UNI will have the upper hand when it comes to character hype.
disney4life2008
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True but those attractions only go so far. Think of the mind of a 7 year old boy.
Animaniac93-98
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What else is needed? Adding one or two Star Wars or Cars ride is not going to dramatically skew the perceived gender-attraction ratio by much.
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disney4life2008
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Good question?
tirian
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Tell Yellow Shoes to stop marketing the place as Disney Parks Princess Castle for Three-Year-Olds.
Better yet, get some new blood into that department—preferably older, seasoned talent that understands the whole company and not just the 80s–2000s marketing machine.
disney4life2008
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I would say that when Toy Story was strong their marketing was heavily on that. But every commercial I see present day is about disney princesses. Not to say boys arent interested in Cinderella but everything is about them.