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[marni1971]

Man, I swear I've said that out loud at least ten times reading through the last few pages of this thread. I really don't understand why people argue with him.

Because they're proud not to use the ignore function?

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Because they're proud not to use the ignore function?

While I admire the level of restraint some members have when it comes to the "ignore" function, I will also say that arguing with the same 3 or 4 people in every thread adds nothing to the discussion and only helps to bury any relevant news or information. It's very clear that some members are more trouble than they're worth and whether or not you choose to use the official "ignore" option, it would probably be best for most to move past them.

 

[RoysCabin]

Man, I swear I've said that out loud at least ten times reading through the last few pages of this thread. I really don't understand why people argue with him.

Yeah, reading it back engaging seems like a rookie mistake on my part. Lesson learned.

 

[marni1971]

I will also say that arguing with the same 3 or 4 people in every thread adds nothing to the discussion and only helps to bury any relevant news or information..

It would be nice if the problems weren't here. Trolling and flaming are against forum rules.

I guess some people just attract.... attention.

Now, back to the OP?

 

[CanadianGordon]

If I were you I would ditch that friend.

She meant well and wanted us to focus on enjoying ourselves. Which we did. We got all the big ones out of the way. We were really there for a Disney wedding... So the next time is for us. At least by finding out more information I only really missed out on Lights, Motor, Action as it were.

 

[lazyboy97o]

To me the question is not who did what first, because we were talking about taking chances, something that Disney past was never afraid to do, with an IP that maybe hasn't completely captured the publics imagination, but, even though I thought the movie, or the parts of it that I have seen, is awful the possible visual effects are mind boggling and with or without a popular story line can be a tremendous attraction.

To say that it is less a gamble because UNI built something big out of a popular IP, is something that I cannot understand at all. If done well, and I just have a suspicion that it will be, it will be the talk of the theme park world. However, it could fall on it's face because it isn't a currently popular franchise. Much more risk then thinking that Potter would be a success. Let's just hope that the engineering is a little more precise then a certain Yeti that I will not mention. That also sounded great on paper.

Disney's position is that there is a positive correlation between box office receipts and themed entertainment success. Getting Avatar was a sure thing because of its huge box office. People will love Pandora: The World of Avatar because of the film's box office success.

 

[ford91exploder]

Disney's position is that there is a positive correlation between box office receipts and themed entertainment success. Getting Avatar was a sure thing because of its huge box office. People will love Pandora: The World of Avatar because of the film's box office success.

Avatar was a massive box office success because of it's groundbreaking WORKING 3D technology which did not give the audience headaches or seizures, The same was the case for the 'Jazz Singer' which was the first movie with GOOD synchronized sound, Neither movie was a cinematic masterwork but both incorporated technology which changed moviemaking forever. Unfortunately Disney conflates box office with 'popular culture icon'.

 

[Bocabear]

I am bored with Pandora and it hasn't even opened yet...lol Disney needs to start dropping some marketing stuff and let us all start getting excited about it...but it has what...anothe year of construction until the opening?

 

[Phil12]

I'm plenty familiar with Mickey's copyright, as well as the other licensing agreements.

Perhaps I should have been more clear -- BECAUSE of Disney's huge legal department which serves to protect their IP, there is no character in Fantasyland whose status in the Public Domain is an issue for Disney. The non-Disney Seven Dwarfs may as well not even be The Seven Dwarfs to them -- they have the rights to both their names and their images, which is all they care about. They ensure that no one else uses those iterations without proper licensing. The public domain characters? They could almost certainly not care less. They have no rights there. That is all I meant. They make money from their versions of the characters, they make no money from the public domain versions that inspired them, and nary the two shall meet.

But, since your responses to me and everyone else seem to indicate you are more interested in talking down to people than having an open discussion . . . maybe we can jump back on topic.

Thanks for making that clear. It's what I was saying from the very start.

 

[Phil12]

...You're not making one iota of sense.

I know it's hard to understand when you burden yourself with unneeded rules and requirements. I would suggest you use more creativity and imagination and less rigid theme restrictions.

 

[Phil12]

I think a lot of us here love Museums.... Maybe a traveling exhibit?

It would be directly contrary to Walt's expressed wishes.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Disney's position is that there is a positive correlation between box office receipts and themed entertainment success. Getting Avatar was a sure thing because of its huge box office. People will love Pandora: The World of Avatar because of the film's box office success.

That may well have been the thought, but, you don't invest millions of dollars on a thought unless you feel really confident that it will return. I don't think, no matter what the box office did years ago, that there is any guarantee that the property is currently tickling the fancy of the public. It could be the biggest theme park blunder since they put in those extra Monorail footings near Epcot.

 

[lazyboy97o]

That may well have been the thought, but, you don't invest millions of dollars on a thought unless you feel really confident that it will return. I don't think, no matter what the box office did years ago, that there is any guarantee that the property is currently tickling the fancy of the public. It could be the biggest theme park blunder since they put in those extra Monorail footings near Epcot.

None of that is relevant to Disney's ongoing strategy. The project becoming a boondoggle doesn't change why it was initiated.

 

[Goofyernmost]

None of that is relevant to Disney's ongoing strategy. The project becoming a boondoggle doesn't change why it was initiated.

None of it is relevant at all. The decision is made and it will be whatever it will be. Even discussing it before it opens is an exercise in futility. It may well become a boondoggle, my crystal ball is in the shop getting the glass replaced, but, it hasn't yet, so perhaps we should all try to stop predicting the good and the bad and see what the reality is.

 

[lazyboy97o]

None of it is relevant at all. The decision is made and it will be whatever it will be. Even discussing it before it opens is an exercise in futility. It may well become a boondoggle, my crystal ball is in the shop getting the glass replaced, but, it hasn't yet, so perhaps we should all try to stop predicting the good and the bad and see what the reality is.

You're the one who keeps having to rely on predictions to show it as a gamble. There is no predicting in looking at why the project was pursued and why it was considered a sure thing.

 

[Goofyernmost]

You're the one who keeps having to rely on predictions to show it as a gamble. There is no predicting in looking at why the project was pursued and why it was considered a sure thing.

I guess I am getting bad at expressing myself. I responded to a post that stated the Pandora was no risk based on the success of Potter in Uni. I was merely stating that if you compare the two, Pandora is a much bigger risk then Potter was or is. That was what my part of the discussion was about. I don't know why they considered it a sure thing and never said that I did. I do, however, recognize the risk, the investment and the potential losses if it fails to deliver. Seems to me that it is quite big time.

 

[Mike S]

I guess I am getting bad at expressing myself. I responded to a post that stated the Pandora was no risk based on the success of Potter in Uni. I was merely stating that if you compare the two, Pandora is a much bigger risk then Potter was or is. That was what my part of the discussion was about. I don't know why they considered it a sure thing and never said that I did. I do, however, recognize the risk, the investment and the potential losses if it fails to deliver. Seems to me that it is quite big time.

Potter was a huge gamble due to the simple fact that if it failed UOR would've sunk further and further into irrelevancy and Comcast probably would've sold off the parks after they purchased Universal. It was their last shot and it payed off big time.

 

[gmajew]

Potter was a huge gamble due to the simple fact that if it failed UOR would've sunk further and further into irrelevancy and Comcast probably would've sold off the parks after they purchased Universal. It was their last shot and it payed off big time.

The move by them to do Potter and do it the way they did kept them in the game and changed the face of Orlando... It took everyone up a notch going forward and expectations for everything were raised! Disney and them.... why we are all so hard on both groups when they fail to hit the standards we now know and expect from a new area.....

It was there DL moment....

 

[Mike S]

The move by them to do Potter and do it the way they did kept them in the game and changed the face of Orlando... It took everyone up a notch going forward and expectations for everything were raised! Disney and them.... why we are all so hard on both groups when they fail to hit the standards we now know and expect from a new area.....

It was there DL moment....

Now we all just laugh at SeaWorld

 

[JWG]

I quite seriously forgot what thread I was in and what I was hoping to find out in reading these last 2 pages.