News Disney Not Renewing Great Movie Ride Sponsorship Deal with TCM ; Attraction to Close

Matt_Black

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Now that Wreck-It Ralph seems to have proved itself worthy enough for a sequel I wonder what that means for the Parks. DHS could use all the dark rides it can get. The density of Disneyland's Fantasyland comes to mind.

Heck, if you want a third IP for a mini-land for DHS, a Litwak's Arcade themed area would be a no-brainer. Wreck-It Ralph, Sugar Rush, Hero's Duty, TRON (keep a sharp eye peeled to the exits in Game Central Station!), etc.
 

Mike S

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Heck, if you want a third IP for a mini-land for DHS, a Litwak's Arcade themed area would be a no-brainer. Wreck-It Ralph, Sugar Rush, Hero's Duty, TRON (keep a sharp eye peeled to the exits in Game Central Station!), etc.
I think a more generic type area would work better to include Zootopia and BH6 in some capacity. A land for the animated movies that don't really mesh with Fantasyland or anywhere else really. DHS has always been an IP park anyway.
 

Herbie

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I think a more generic type area would work better to include Zootopia and BH6 in some capacity. A land for the animated movies that don't really mesh with Fantasyland or anywhere else really. DHS has always been an IP park anyway.

Zootopia for AK, BH6 for Epcot, if we must.
 

Raidermatt

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From a business standpoint, I understand the change in direction...

I don't understand this reasoning at all. From a business standpoint, if Disney had made decisions in earlier years as they do today, they would not be enjoying anywhere near the success that they enjoy today. Disneyland, if they had the stones to even consider making the investment, would have been one giant Fantasyland. No tributes to the Old West, no visions of Tomorrow.

Mansion, Pirates, Space Mountain, The Matterhorn, The Monorail, Epcot, even Animal Kingdom, ... would never happen.

Sure, it's easier to connect the dots when you are "leveraging your IP to capitalize on profitable franchises". But in the big picture, that's extremely low risk, low reward, AND it is very limiting. It takes homeruns like Mansion, Pirates and the Monorail completely off the table. It cripples your ability to reach new audiences, to expand your markets. It constricts the company's creativity to the studios division. It turns the parks into a marketing arm, rather than allowing it to be it's own cauldron of creativity.

They aren't practicing "good" business. They are practicing easy business.

(mandstaft, I do not mean to single you out on this, I've read comments like yours over and over to justify decision after decision, year after year. Your comment just happens to be the one I hit reply to today.)
 

lazyboy97o

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I hope Lasseter got involved. Toy Story is one of hís kids and I would hope he wouldn't want another sub par TSL at the parks. He would be one that would benefit the parks if he would become CEO. He worked in the larks when he was young. He made comments about seeing broken attractions when touring the larks with executives pointing out it was broke the last time he was there. One would hope they are trying to plus this land.
Lassiter did squat about the previous two lands. He wore out his welcome in being involved with the parks on Cars Land.

Haunted Mansion at Disneyland sat for 6 or 7 years unfinished. Just a house to look at while they decided what was going to be inside. Disney has a bit of a history of taking their own sweet time.
Not at all a similar situation. A roller coaster and flat ride are both something that can go from start to finish in 18 months.
 

Herbie

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Flavor of the month? It made over a billion dollars and was met with rave critic and audience reviews! Even if the mainstream disregards it in the future, you KNOW the furries will do there darnedest to keep it afloat.

But it's not the same league as say Frozen... Like Wall-E, it's decent, but it's not screaming for theme park additions. (although I would like Wall-E, but I can see how it can slip through the cracks)
 

Kate F

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On the one hand, I'm glad that they're apparently taking a step back and reevaluating their plans for the rather unimpressive-looking TSL. It's really not a great IP to theme a land around no matter how you spin it, but I do think that with a lot of effort and creativity, they can make it something really special.

On the other hand, I think they need to get all of these plans for TSL figured out quickly considering the embarrassing state of the park (next year for DHS is going to be rough). A late 2018 opening date already seems like a lot of time to wait for something like TSL, we definitely don't need to have it pushed back even further, especially given this parks needs. By all means, I want the land to be quality, but I also think they need to figure something out and get going asap.

Here's hoping the plans change for the better.
 
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Daveeeeed

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I think this is what should happen to the parks for the next decade:

Mk: Tomorrowland overhaul, facade changes to make them futuristic, elevated pathways, updated Peoplemover with new show scenes, updated space mountain, make Stitch overhauled to the movie Alien. Add either Tron, Wall-E, or a custom Time travel ride, or a custom KUKA SpaceSuit ride with the jet pack.

Ak: Redo dinoland, add a restaraunt that has like a viewing window for an epic animatronic T-Rex, add another E-ticket, remove Primevil Whirl, and Triceratops Spin. Very Long-Term add Either Australia/South America/Antarctica/Zootopia. Would be nice to have another ride somewhere in the park too.

Hws: Add a Nightmare Before Christmas land with 1 Epic ride going through the songs from the movie, but not in a book report way like Ariel instead more like an adventure with the best scenes that we have and haven't seen from the movie, it could take up Animation Courtyard. Make the Mickey ride replace Indy ss instead of GMR, but leave enough room for an entire land themed to an ip. Update The Great Movie Ride to today's standards. Slightly Update Rock n' Rollercoaster with better new signs in the ride, and an upgraded queue. Add a C-ticket to Muppet's Courtyard with a ride time about like Mk's Pooh, but with Animatronics on par with Splash Mountain.

Epcot: Update facades throughout Future World, and redesign the entrance walkways and central plaza area. Update Living with the Land and the Land interior. Overhaul imagination, and bring back the Dreamfinder. Update Mission:Space and have different combination scenes like Star Tours: tac, since it is probably going to happen make Universe of Energy a Superhero pavilion that has a Guardians of The Galaxy ride not the entire pavilion themed to guardians, Make the sea the Living seas again, Update it and make it based off of again a sea base, but with fun facts and some Nemo things, but with a better story and not being solely based off of Nemo, make the Nemo ride a submarine like ride ala 20K Leagues under the sea Tokyo, except with a larger range of motion like a simulator: it could be themed that you are going from a research base deep into the ocean, and you see different things from Finding Nemo like the Anglerfish but no specific mention besides he subs being called Nemo (a nod to finding Nemo and 20k). Last but not least some new ride in World Showcase and then you have a perfect park.

Just felt like sharing my thoughts on what should happen:D
 

EPCOTCenterLover

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I don't understand this reasoning at all. From a business standpoint, if Disney had made decisions in earlier years as they do today, they would not be enjoying anywhere near the success that they enjoy today. Disneyland, if they had the stones to even consider making the investment, would have been one giant Fantasyland. No tributes to the Old West, no visions of Tomorrow.

Mansion, Pirates, Space Mountain, The Matterhorn, The Monorail, Epcot, even Animal Kingdom, ... would never happen.

Sure, it's easier to connect the dots when you are "leveraging your IP to capitalize on profitable franchises". But in the big picture, that's extremely low risk, low reward, AND it is very limiting. It takes homeruns like Mansion, Pirates and the Monorail completely off the table. It cripples your ability to reach new audiences, to expand your markets. It constricts the company's creativity to the studios division. It turns the parks into a marketing arm, rather than allowing it to be it's own cauldron of creativity.

They aren't practicing "good" business. They are practicing easy business.

(mandstaft, I do not mean to single you out on this, I've read comments like yours over and over to justify decision after decision, year after year. Your comment just happens to be the one I hit reply to today.)

I don't feel singled out at all- no worries! :)

Let me clarify- I don't like the decision, but I understand why they went this direction.
 

michmousefan

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But it's not the same league as say Frozen... Like Wall-E, it's decent, but it's not screaming for theme park additions. (although I would like Wall-E, but I can see how it can slip through the cracks)
I could see a dark ride train or monorail-type ride tour of Zootopia as a big hit for both kids and adults. Multi-sensory, warm and cold effects, humid and dry... could be a classic. Could work in DHS, DAK or even MK.
 

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