Parker in NYC
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Ahh, ok. I understand that. I don't like it but I understand it.
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News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks
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CaptainAmerica
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Yes.
Saying to someone who is on the fence about the vax, "if you get the vax, you still have to do the distancing and masking and everything else you hate," that person is going to say "okay so I'm not going to bother."
This person is not afraid of COVID, so "protect yourself from COVID" is not compelling.
I think the vaccine cautious people would be more willing if they weren't being told to still double mask and if you are good boys and girls you may be able to paly together on July 4th. The anit vaxxers no they aren't getting it no matter what. I honestly at this point think the message many who haven't gotten it yet are getting is that "we" want total control and you are going to do as we say but not as we do.
Dranth
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This.
While not exclusive to the anti-mark crowd, you see far more instances of random “my freedom” guy spitting on some poor employee or arguing with a manager or threating to fight everyone around them or sue the establishment than you see belligerent/violent pro mask man/woman.
Sure, the sanctimonious, holier than thou approach by some is annoying but I’ll take that over spitting jerk any day of the week.
In terms of WDW, I wonder if the trouble of having the cast members police an indoor/outdoor policy is just too much to deal with so they leave things as is until they are ready to drop it altogether. Either way, it will be nice when we can finally and safely drop the masks completely.
HairyChest
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I’m curious for those that Wouldn’t be comfortable maskless even after getting the vaccine, did You always get a flu shot? And if you didn’t, is this uncomfortability without a mask really from a political influence or actual science? I would really want to know and have a civilized discussion. I really wish masking was clear cut as “If you get a flu, rest and liquids help“ Or any other scientific solution.
Maybe I haven’t done my due diligence to really understand why this is still Unclear to me.
Maybe I haven’t done my due diligence to really understand why this is still Unclear to me.
Now in regards to Disney - if CDC comes out with new social distancing guidance - say, 3ft with masks is okay outdoor/indoor (i just read that somewhere but now i can't find it) - will they remove the plexiglass? Or are we stuck with those until the end of time?
I don't have much hope of anything spectacular coming out of announcement tomorrow, but if they even changed to the above, it would be a step in the right direction.
I don't have much hope of anything spectacular coming out of announcement tomorrow, but if they even changed to the above, it would be a step in the right direction.
peter11435
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You could expect the distancing markers to be changed quickly to accommodate. Don’t expect plexiglass to come down quickly at all.
Even with 3ft guidelines, I don't expect much will change at WDW, since many guests already don't respect the 6ft distancing guidelines. Or at least weren't last month. 
Even with 3ft guidelines, I don't expect much will change at WDW, since many guests already don't respect the 6ft distancing guidelines. Or at least weren't last month.
It means a lot if it happens indoor/outdoor.
Ride capacity can increase, lines can allow more people, restaurants and stores can allow more people/increase capacity - making it easier to get ADRs- pools can allow more people, buses can allow more people...
MagicHappens1971
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I wouldn’t expect the plexiglass to stick around forever, but it probably won’t come down until sometime early next year.
jmp85
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The Publix I visit here in NW Florida went from practically everyone being masked up (you might see 1-2 people without one) a month ago, to yesterday, where I'd estimate 75% of the people did not have masks. It looks like everyone who has been vaccinated has thrown out their mask.
More capacity... sort of. Buses can't really increase capacity until there are no distancing guidelines. There needs to be more restaurants open to handle higher crowds. And they need staff rehired and retrained in time. But for all that to happen, there has to be a corresponding increase in the number of guests paying and visiting. How many guests are likely to book a spur-of-the-moment trip in the next 6 weeks? I'd venture a guess of "Non many". Unless, of course, Disney had more Park Pass spots available to reserve than current capacity on the expectation they'd be able to increase capacity...
More capacity... sort of. Buses can't really increase capacity until there are no distancing guidelines. There needs to be more restaurants open to handle higher crowds. And they need staff rehired and retrained in time. But for all that to happen, there has to be a corresponding increase in the number of guests paying and visiting. How many guests are likely to book a spur-of-the-moment trip in the next 6 weeks? I'd venture a guess of "Non many". Unless, of course, Disney had more Park Pass spots available to reserve than current capacity on the expectation they'd be able to increase capacity...
I'm not following - why wouldn't reducing distancing to 3 feet allow for more people to be in restaurants at same time? Does Disney have a percentage they allow - is that what you mean? So even if we can sit 3 feet instead of 6 feet apart, they will only allow in 25%?
It doesn't matter if they went back to 100% capacity and no distancing guidelines - If they don't rehire more people and reopen more restaurants, there will be longer lines at the ones currently open in the parks. That's all I was getting at.
disneygeek90
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I don’t see them pushing 3ft for indoor dining. 3ft in outside queues, maybe. That’s what it ends up being half the time anyway because people can’t look at the markers on the ground.
ToTBellHop
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Exactly. But they would slowly increase capacity due to staffing (40% then 45% a month later), so you’d see another summer sweet spot where crowds are reasonably manageable.
But there would be more available time slots for ADRs in the restaurants that are open. That would only help.
Obviously Disney needs to start opening more restaurants, but allowing more capacity at the ones that are open (and stay open later) would be a help.
pixie225
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We have gotten the vaccine, and would still be uncomfortable going maskless at this point in time. Not only do we feel masks protect us, but also protect others just in case we are carriers. It may just be in our heads, but we still swerve to avoid people not wearing masks if we see them- though I would say 95% or more of the people here still wear masks. Even though we are at a 2.5% infection rate here for the first time since November we still had around 450 new cases yesterday here on Long Island, and people are still dying. Just as we take precautions anytime a virus starts going around, or lice, or chicken pox, we will continue to take precautions as long as covid is around.
ImperfectPixie
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We're pretty much of the same mind-set. I'd rather be over-cautious than not cautious enough - for myself and for others. My sad face on your comment was for the cases and deaths in your area.
disneygeek90
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I thought it was pretty much proven that vaccinated, uninfected individuals were not unknowingly spreading to non vaccinated. Is that not accurate?
Obviously if you have a breakthrough case all bets are off, but I mean for vaccinated people with no case.
Obviously if you have a breakthrough case all bets are off, but I mean for vaccinated people with no case.
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