News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

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dreday3

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I thought it was pretty much proven that vaccinated, uninfected individuals were not unknowingly spreading to non vaccinated. Is that not accurate?

Obviously if you have a breakthrough case all bets are off, but I mean for vaccinated people with no case.

Studies support this, yes.
 

ImperfectPixie

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I thought it was pretty much proven that vaccinated, uninfected individuals were not unknowingly spreading to non vaccinated. Is that not accurate?

Obviously if you have a breakthrough case all bets are off, but I mean for vaccinated people with no case.
Vaccinated people can be carriers unknowingly.
 

ImperfectPixie

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How is that different from just being asymptomatic? If the vaccine works shouldn’t there be no trace of detectable covid?
The vaccine provides high probability that you won't be infected at all. If you DO become infected enough to become ill, there's a 95% chance that you won't have severe symptoms and 100% probability that you won't need hospitalization.

ETA: This applies to the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, if memory serves.
 

disneygeek90

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The vaccine provides high probability that you won't be infected at all. If you DO become infected enough to become ill, there's a 95% chance that you won't have severe symptoms and 100% probability that you won't need hospitalization.
Right, I understand that. So being a carrier would mean being a breakthrough case.
 

correcaminos

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Vaccinated people can be carriers unknowingly.
A tiny percentage, yes, but not a significant amount to make it necessary. That's why my dad can be around my kid who is low risk without a mask. Studies have proven this.

Not going to be rude here with this, but a lot of the needing to wear masks of those who are vaccinated are in your (general you) head. Again it is going to take time to erase what we've been living for a year. I think the longer I'm vaccinated, the less I worry. I'm hoping more will get that way too.
 

disneygeek90

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A tiny percentage, yes, but not a significant amount to make it necessary. That's why my dad can be around my kid who is low risk without a mask. Studies have proven this.

Not going to be rude here with this, but a lot of the needing to wear masks of those who are vaccinated are in your (general you) head. Again it is going to take time to erase what we've been living for a year. I think the longer I'm vaccinated, the less I worry. I'm hoping more will get that way too.
I totally understand it taking time. I can’t even watch tv shows and movies without having one moment of “where are the masks??”

But I agree, the science is there. At some point, we have to trust the vaccine and the effectiveness. Though, if people want to keep wearing masks I certainly won’t begrudge them. I’ve been to the parks in the heat as much as anyone this past year and have been 100% in agreement with all the protocols. But at some point my fully vaccinated self can’t worry about infecting someone else. The non-vaxers (choose not to be vaccinated) are the ones that need to worry about that.
 

ImperfectPixie

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A tiny percentage, yes, but not a significant amount to make it necessary. That's why my dad can be around my kid who is low risk without a mask. Studies have proven this.

Not going to be rude here with this, but a lot of the needing to wear masks of those who are vaccinated are in your (general you) head. Again it is going to take time to erase what we've been living for a year. I think the longer I'm vaccinated, the less I worry. I'm hoping more will get that way too.
Well, I'm going to be rude. There's a decent-sized, very LOUD portion of the general public who has been very loud and vocal about pushing conspiracy theories, balking at every safety precaution, and pushing absolute garbage about the vaccines. These people have very public platforms on multiple media outlets and even in Washington and they've all done more damage to America in the last year that I could have ever imagined.
 

Figgy1

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A tiny percentage, yes, but not a significant amount to make it necessary. That's why my dad can be around my kid who is low risk without a mask. Studies have proven this.

Not going to be rude here with this, but a lot of the needing to wear masks of those who are vaccinated are in your (general you) head. Again it is going to take time to erase what we've been living for a year. I think the longer I'm vaccinated, the less I worry. I'm hoping more will get that way too.
Would you feel comfortable being unmasked inside with somebody still waiting for a shot
 

Chi84

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A tiny percentage, yes, but not a significant amount to make it necessary. That's why my dad can be around my kid who is low risk without a mask. Studies have proven this.

Not going to be rude here with this, but a lot of the needing to wear masks of those who are vaccinated are in your (general you) head. Again it is going to take time to erase what we've been living for a year. I think the longer I'm vaccinated, the less I worry. I'm hoping more will get that way too.
For the most part, people who are getting vaccinated are being patient and understanding about continuing with mask-wearing. But I predict it won't be too long before they take the position that it's their job to get vaccinated and Disney's job to figure out how to distinguish between who is and who isn't.
 

Mr. Moderate

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Very interesting conversation, many good points made here, and I find myself in agreement with many of you. FTR, I work in a hospital for many years now and last April I became sick with COVID and it was a long 3 weeks with side effects last lasted for quite a while. I was lucky enough to be vaccinated in January and I look forward to the day where masks aren’t needed or at least not outdoors as much. I certainly hope that Disney can loosen restrictions soon, as I find some of what is mandated and what people do in real life to be kind of foolish and not effective, for the lack of better wording. I’ve witnessed so much stupid behavior by the pro mask and anti-mask people that it’s just ridiculous. Hopefully we as a society and our government can find common ground solutions that seems to be based more in common sense than fear and panic. I just don’t know what to think every time I open up my computer and check the news and see headlines that just scream at you at how bad everything is. Then I see other headlines that infection rates are falling and we may be mask less by late summer. I find it all to be confusing, to be honest.

My entire family will be vaccinated soon and we have a long time planned vacation to Disney World this October. Hopefully restrictions will be loosened and my family, along with many others, can enjoy Disney vacations like they had in years past.
 

Figgy1

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If I myself am fully vaccinated? I wouldn't give it a thought! I have faith in the vaccine and faith in the studies that support how effective these vaccines are.
But how would somebody know you were vaccinated? Around here shot are still scarce. or is too bad their feelings
 

danlb_2000

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It's terrible messaging by incompetent people like TV attention seeker Doctor Fauci. It's also the reason why everyone is now worrying that vaccine demand is falling off. People have no motivation to get the shot versus any misconceived notion of risk.

If you told people that after they got the shot they wouldn't have to wear a mask or social distance or limit activities, you would see demand surge for the vaccine. Yes there is a risk of a breakthrough case, but what is a greater risk, the rare chance that you can get a mild or asymptomatic infection or 40-50% of the population not having any vaccine based immunity?

Yes, but in how many situations could that even be allowed? You could only do that in places where a persons vaccination status could be validated.
 

danlb_2000

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I’m curious for those that Wouldn’t be comfortable maskless even after getting the vaccine, did You always get a flu shot? And if you didn’t, is this uncomfortability without a mask really from a political influence or actual science? I would really want to know and have a civilized discussion. I really wish masking was clear cut as “If you get a flu, rest and liquids help“ Or any other scientific solution.
Maybe I haven’t done my due diligence to really understand why this is still Unclear to me.

I fit in this category, and it's not political influence or actual science, it's irrational fear. I am actually a very scientifically minded, logically thinking person, but that can' override deep seated fears of things.
 

disneygeek90

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I fit in this category, and it's not political influence or actual science, it's irrational fear. I am actually a very scientifically minded, logically thinking person, but that can' override deep seated fears of things.
It’s understandable. It’s been a bit of an adjustment for myself too. That’s what 14 months of a pandemic will do to you, I suppose.
 
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