News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

[tpac24]

And people are getting very excited about this announcement tomorrow about mask guidance from CDC - it's going to be something like "vaccinated people don't need masks as long as they can social distance or are around other vaccinated people outdoors" - so if you can't social distance, they will say we still need masks outdoors. Which won't really result in any change at all.

Which is why many are not jumping in line to get the vaccine. With that kind of messaging it makes the vaccine seem worthless.

 

[dreday3]

Which is why many are not jumping in line to get the vaccine. With that kind of messaging it makes the vaccine seem worthless.

I'm very pro-vaccine and I agree with you. In fact, if come October/Nov/Dec we are still having pretty much these same restrictions (and no real new threat to speak of) and they tell me it's time for a booster, I'm not sure I'll get it. Why bother?

(i'm pessimistic today)

 

[monothingie]

Saw this article the other day on thus topic

"A survey released last month by the American Psychological Association found that 48 percent of adults who have been vaccinated said they felt “uneasy” about returning to in-person interactions once the pandemic is over."

This is why just getting people who want it vaccinated isn't enough, we need to get the case count down so that people will feel comfortable doing things again, because if these people are still "hiding at home" they aren't contributing fully to the economy.

Or maybe because we've been conditioned by the click driven drive by media for the past year to believe that the second we step foot outside or interact with anyone we're going to die.

Maybe the best way for people to return to normal is see that other people are doing it and not instantly being killed? Seems like a lot better way than perpetuating the cycle of isolation...

 

[tpac24]

I'm very pro-vaccine and I agree with you. In fact, if come October/Nov/Dec we are still having pretty much these same restrictions (and no real new threat to speak of) and they tell me it's time for a booster, I'm not sure I'll get it. Why bother?

(i'm pessimistic today)

I am not anti vaxx but not pro either. I guess you could call me vaccine cautious, however I like to function in society so I get what is necessary to do that but I am with you on the booster issue.

 

[monothingie]

Which is why many are not jumping in line to get the vaccine. With that kind of messaging it makes the vaccine seem worthless.

It's terrible messaging by incompetent people like TV attention seeker Doctor Fauci. It's also the reason why everyone is now worrying that vaccine demand is falling off. People have no motivation to get the shot versus any misconceived notion of risk.

If you told people that after they got the shot they wouldn't have to wear a mask or social distance or limit activities, you would see demand surge for the vaccine. Yes there is a risk of a breakthrough case, but what is a greater risk, the rare chance that you can get a mild or asymptomatic infection or 40-50% of the population not having any vaccine based immunity?

 

[tpac24]

It's terrible messaging by incompetent people like TV attention seeker Doctor Fauci. It's also the reason why everyone is now worrying that vaccine demand is falling off. People have no motivation to get the shot versus any misconceived notion of risk.

If you told people that after they got the shot they wouldn't have to wear a mask or social distance or limit activities, you would see demand surge for the vaccine. Yes there is a risk of a breakthrough case, but what is a greater risk, the rare chance that you can get a mild or asymptomatic infection or 40-50% of the population not having any vaccine based immunity?

At one point that was the messaging . Now it is the the doom and gloom long Winter we were told about.

 

[monothingie]

At one point that was the messaging . Now it is the the doom and gloom long Winter we were told about.

When attention seeking talking heads like the esteemed TV personality Dr. Fauci can't even provide a specific numerical metric when asked for a what level of infection would be sufficient for a removal of restrictions, other than ambiguously saying "low", it's no longer about the science or returning things to normal, it becomes about control.

 

[mickeymiss]

Which is why many are not jumping in line to get the vaccine. With that kind of messaging it makes the vaccine seem worthless.

They haven't even clarified to my knowledge if this vaccine covers any variants that everyone is talking about. Some studies leak out here and there about transmission being unlikely after vaccination but Fauci himself has mentioned that as one of the reasons why we are still masking. We need total transparency about what they know. They mentioned a possible booster in a few months and didn't follow up on that. It's a mess which is why confidence is lower than with most vaccines. I want the last year of painful isolation to be worth something. If we endured all of those sacrifices and now can't even wait a little longer until we know the vaccine is performing as expected then that will be frustrating for a lot of people.

 

[HairyChest]

I wonder how Disney will be able to tell the guests walking around with a vaccine from those without one. They won't. Unfortunately I think this CDC guideline will make little difference with Disney. But hey, I could be wrong and they may just lose it a little and decide to forego masks outside altogether.

Disney doesn’t need to differentiate. They can say “outdoor masks are optional but highly advised for those that are not vaccinated”. I think that would be a reasonable position once their cast members are vaccinated (that want to be). Especially since they are already requiring COVID risk agreement when making park reservations, tickets and reservations before you are allowed to complete the transactions.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Disney doesn’t need to differentiate. They can say “outdoor masks are optional but highly advised for those that are not vaccinated”. I think that would be a reasonable position once their cast members are vaccinated (that want to be). Especially since they are already requiring COVID risk agreement when making park reservations, tickets and reservations before you are allowed to complete the transactions.

I don't trust the general public as far as I can throw them. We've all seen people starting fistfights over being asked to wear a mask inside a store - you think those people won't lie?

 

[mickeymiss]

What do you all think of temperature checks?

 

[HairyChest]

I don't trust the general public as far as I can throw them. We've all seen people starting fistfights over being asked to wear a mask inside a store - you think those people won't lie?

If you have gotten the vaccine, why would it be an issue if others are maskless? Unless the vaccine does not protect you against the virus then the vaccine is not effective.

 

[monothingie]

I don't trust the general public as far as I can throw them. We've all seen people starting fistfights over being asked to wear a mask inside a store - you think those people won't lie?

Disney is not going to let up on masks, until it is generally accepted that indoor masking is not required.

They can not differentiate vax'd versus non vax'd
Having conflicted rules will lead to confrontations when going from outside to inside
It's easier just to make everyone wear a mask.

 

[disneygeek90]

What do you all think of temperature checks?

Pretty much pointless, but they add about 20 seconds to the arrival process so I don't mind. Temp checks + new bag check is still probably 10 mins faster on most days than no temp checks + old back check system.

 

[disneygeek90]

I'm very pro-vaccine and I agree with you. In fact, if come October/Nov/Dec we are still having pretty much these same restrictions (and no real new threat to speak of) and they tell me it's time for a booster, I'm not sure I'll get it. Why bother?

(i'm pessimistic today)

Because it'll keep you and your family from getting sick? Which is, at the end of the day, more important than needing to wear a mask in a theme park.

 

[monothingie]

Because it'll keep you and your family from getting sick? Which is, at the end of the day, more important than needing to wear a mask in a theme park.

So we need the mask because the vaccine works so well?

 

[ImperfectPixie]

If you have gotten the vaccine, why would it be an issue if others are maskless? Unless the vaccine does not protect you against the virus then the vaccine is not effective.

Because they'll continue to spread it amongst themselves and possibly to those who CANNOT be vaccinated.

 

[monothingie]

Because they'll continue to spread it amongst themselves and possibly to those who CANNOT be vaccinated.

You are always going to have a percentage of the population that chooses not get vax'd or can't get vax'd.

 

[Horizons '83]

Because they'll continue to spread it amongst themselves and possibly to those who CANNOT be vaccinated.

But at a certain point we have to be ok with that risk, just like any other virus. I understand we are not there yet numbers wise, but when get to that number (which I haven't actually seen what we are shooting for), then I think it's time to move on so to speak with the masks.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

But at a certain point we have to be ok with that risk, just like any other virus. I understand we are not there yet numbers wise, but when get to that number (which I haven't actually seen what we are shooting for), then I think it's time to move on so to speak with the masks.

My issue is those wanting to ditch them now, and insisting that nuance can be added to the rules. My state is a perfect example of why nuance with mask rules don't work - we originally had a "masks outdoors only when distancing is not possible", but people wouldn't do it...so the governor changed it to "masks outside in public regardless of distance"...and that is still in effect.