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DisneyFan32

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ToTBellHop said:
It still mitigates because immunity wanes over time. Giving that 44% stronger immunity leading into any case potential surge does relieve strain on healthcare.

I agree with you that I shake my head a bit when I read “we really need to vaccinate more people.” We do, but it’s not gonna happen.

All of that is why I’m skeptical of mask mandates returning. We are reaching the point where the situation is the situation and people aren’t going to change. So, we just have to live with it.
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Mask mandate returning FOR years is gimme more mad about rest for my life now. I don't WANT to wear mask FOREVER ever.
 
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GimpYancIent said:
Sunshine and fresh air seem to be the most abundant antiinfection agents around. I suggest getting out of the urban environment (even briefly) and partaking in some (its free), I suggest going to a beach plus enjoying a cold corona W lime while at it.
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Remember when beaches were closed and Florida lawyers were running around in Grim Reaper outfits. Crazy.
 
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GimpYancIent said:
Yes, a dark medieval time best not talked about.
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When the coronavirus receded across much of the globe last month and the omicron surge declined, many Americans were hopeful that was perhaps the signal that the United States was entering a new phase of the pandemic.

However, new data indicators, domestically and internationally, suggest that the virus continues to spread.

Although official counts of COVID-19 infections and hospitalizations are still declining, new wastewater data updated this week from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows the United States may be seeing the beginnings of an uptick in COVID-19 infections.

Between Feb. 24 and March 10, 37% of wastewater sites that are monitored by the CDC have seen an increase of 100% or more in the presence of the COVID-19 virus in their wastewater. Approximately 30% of these sites have seen an increase of 1,000% or more.

"It is likely we will see a new rise in cases across the United States as our wastewater data is showing a concerning signal," said Rebecca Weintraub, assistant professor of global health and social medicine at Harvard Medical School. "Now is a key moment to communicate why we need to accelerate the uptake of the COVID-19 vaccine, remind communities why boosters are needed, secure an ongoing supply of tests and N95 to communities -- especially the red zones."

Throughout the pandemic, wastewater surveillance has been a tool used as a preliminary indicator of COVID-19 trends in the U.S.

Because asymptomatic patients can shed the virus, wastewater surveillance can capture infections that may not have been identified in official counts. In addition, many Americans are taking at-home COVID-19 tests and are not reporting their results to officials, and thus, experts say, infection totals are likely undercounted.

MORE: With millions still unboosted against COVID, public health experts face tricky messaging around potential 4th shot
Wastewater data is sparse across the country, but indicators show some sites in the Northeast, including in New York, Connecticut and Pennsylvania, as well as across Ohio, have seen notable increases in the presence of COVID-19 in local wastewater.

In New York City, some sites saw a 50% increase in the presence of COVID-19 in the city's wastewater.

COVID-19 trouble brewing overseas

The uptick in the presence of COVID-19 in U.S. wastewater sites comes as other countries in Europe and in Asia are seeing significant viral resurgences.

Across some parts of Asia, COVID-19 has been surging to unprecedented levels. In Hong Kong, the number of virus-positive residents requiring hospitalization has been pushing health care facilities to the edge.


In China, more than 50 million people in the northeastern province of Jilin and the southern cities of Shenzhen and Dongguan, are heading into lockdown after a viral resurgence.

In Europe, COVID-19 cases have steadily been rising after many countries have moved to end COVID-19 restrictions.

Since the beginning of the month, new cases per capita in the United Kingdom have grown by 32% and hospitalizations are also up by 5% in the last week. In Germany, infections are up by 45%, while in Italy, daily cases have increased by 26%.

"Across Europe and in the U.K., we are seeing COVID-19 cases go up in countries just exiting from an Omicron BA.1 surge," Dr. Sam Scarpino, managing director of pathogen surveillance at the Rockefeller Foundation and a member of its Pandemic Prevention Institute, told ABC News. "Since the beginning of the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, what’s happened in Europe has happened around the globe. ... We can’t afford to sit around and let this early warning from Europe again go unheeded."

MORE: With millions still unboosted against COVID, public health experts face tricky messaging around potential 4th shot
Many health experts have been raising the alarm about the global increase in infections and hospitalizations, suggesting that Americans should be prepared for the U.S. to follow a similar viral trend.

"The next wave in Europe has begun," Dr. Eric Topol, professor of molecular medicine at Scripps Research, said in a tweet and a blog post on Saturday. "Any proclamation that the pandemic is over ignores the potential recrudescence of a new variant with high transmission and immune escape."

Presence of omicron subvariant BA.2 steadily growing

What is behind this latest COVID-19 resurgence is still unclear. However, experts say it is likely a confluence of factors.

"While we know from genome sequences that the BA.2 omicron subvariant is what’s infecting people, we still don’t know what’s causing the resurgence," Scarpino said. "Is it the increased transmissibility of BA.2, more vaccine breakthroughs, relaxing of non-pharmaceutical interventions, waning immunity, or all of the above?"

Last month, U.S. officials from the CDC unveiled a new plan for determining COVID-19 risk in communities and updated its recommendations for use of face coverings, allowing nearly all of the country to go mask-free under the new guidelines.

Across the pond, in the U.K., Prime Minister Boris Johnson recently declared an end to the country’s COVID-19 mitigation measures. Similarly, countries such as Denmark and the Netherlands have already ended restrictions, while in France, most COVID-19 limitations were lifted on Monday, just weeks before the presidential elections.

The presence of BA.2, a subvariant of omicron, has also been growing rapidly across the globe.

"BA.2 is itself highly transmissible, and both BA.1 and BA.2 appear to generate comparatively short-lived protection against reinfection. So it is likely that the combination of higher inherent transmissibility and higher rates of interaction as restrictions ease are combining to generate this resurgence," Matthew Ferrari, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Dynamics at Pennsylvania State University, told ABC News.

In the U.S., the presence of BA.2 has been nearly doubling every week, according to federal data. Estimates indicate that the omicron subvariant now comprises an estimated nearly 11% of new cases in the U.S. as of March 5.

MORE: Return to pre-pandemic normalcy not yet on the horizon for many immunocompromised Americans
"We've been watching it closely, of course," White House press secretary Jen Psaki said during a White House press briefing on Monday, pointing to the fact that BA.2 appears to be more transmissible. "We currently have about 35,000 cases in this country. We expect some fluctuation, especially at this relatively low level, and certainly that to increase."

Experts say how significant a COVID-19 resurgence could be is still unclear, given how many Americans were infected in the nation’s omicron surge.

"I am hopeful that the large U.S. omicron wave will dampen a new surge, but I am concerned that we will see a resurgence as restrictions are eased," Ferrari said. "Dropping masks and other restrictions will necessarily result in an increase in risk. How big that increase will be remains to be seen."

We're doomed for a large surge of wave COVID-19 soon by this Spring and this fall....Mask mandates will be returning for rest for our lives....
 
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DisneyFan32 said:

When the coronavirus receded across much of the globe last month and the omicron surge declined, many Americans were hopeful that was perhaps the signal that the United States was entering a new phase of the pandemic.

However, new data indicators, domestically and internationally, suggest that the virus continues to spread.

Although official counts of COVID-19 infections and hospitalizations are still declining, new wastewater data updated this week from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows the United States may be seeing the beginnings of an uptick in COVID-19 infections.

Between Feb. 24 and March 10, 37% of wastewater sites that are monitored by the CDC have seen an increase of 100% or more in the presence of the COVID-19 virus in their wastewater. Approximately 30% of these sites have seen an increase of 1,000% or more.

"It is likely we will see a new rise in cases across the United States as our wastewater data is showing a concerning signal," said Rebecca Weintraub, assistant professor of global health and social medicine at Harvard Medical School. "Now is a key moment to communicate why we need to accelerate the uptake of the COVID-19 vaccine, remind communities why boosters are needed, secure an ongoing supply of tests and N95 to communities -- especially the red zones."

Throughout the pandemic, wastewater surveillance has been a tool used as a preliminary indicator of COVID-19 trends in the U.S.

Because asymptomatic patients can shed the virus, wastewater surveillance can capture infections that may not have been identified in official counts. In addition, many Americans are taking at-home COVID-19 tests and are not reporting their results to officials, and thus, experts say, infection totals are likely undercounted.

MORE: With millions still unboosted against COVID, public health experts face tricky messaging around potential 4th shot
Wastewater data is sparse across the country, but indicators show some sites in the Northeast, including in New York, Connecticut and Pennsylvania, as well as across Ohio, have seen notable increases in the presence of COVID-19 in local wastewater.

In New York City, some sites saw a 50% increase in the presence of COVID-19 in the city's wastewater.

COVID-19 trouble brewing overseas

The uptick in the presence of COVID-19 in U.S. wastewater sites comes as other countries in Europe and in Asia are seeing significant viral resurgences.

Across some parts of Asia, COVID-19 has been surging to unprecedented levels. In Hong Kong, the number of virus-positive residents requiring hospitalization has been pushing health care facilities to the edge.


In China, more than 50 million people in the northeastern province of Jilin and the southern cities of Shenzhen and Dongguan, are heading into lockdown after a viral resurgence.

In Europe, COVID-19 cases have steadily been rising after many countries have moved to end COVID-19 restrictions.

Since the beginning of the month, new cases per capita in the United Kingdom have grown by 32% and hospitalizations are also up by 5% in the last week. In Germany, infections are up by 45%, while in Italy, daily cases have increased by 26%.

"Across Europe and in the U.K., we are seeing COVID-19 cases go up in countries just exiting from an Omicron BA.1 surge," Dr. Sam Scarpino, managing director of pathogen surveillance at the Rockefeller Foundation and a member of its Pandemic Prevention Institute, told ABC News. "Since the beginning of the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, what’s happened in Europe has happened around the globe. ... We can’t afford to sit around and let this early warning from Europe again go unheeded."

MORE: With millions still unboosted against COVID, public health experts face tricky messaging around potential 4th shot
Many health experts have been raising the alarm about the global increase in infections and hospitalizations, suggesting that Americans should be prepared for the U.S. to follow a similar viral trend.

"The next wave in Europe has begun," Dr. Eric Topol, professor of molecular medicine at Scripps Research, said in a tweet and a blog post on Saturday. "Any proclamation that the pandemic is over ignores the potential recrudescence of a new variant with high transmission and immune escape."

Presence of omicron subvariant BA.2 steadily growing

What is behind this latest COVID-19 resurgence is still unclear. However, experts say it is likely a confluence of factors.

"While we know from genome sequences that the BA.2 omicron subvariant is what’s infecting people, we still don’t know what’s causing the resurgence," Scarpino said. "Is it the increased transmissibility of BA.2, more vaccine breakthroughs, relaxing of non-pharmaceutical interventions, waning immunity, or all of the above?"

Last month, U.S. officials from the CDC unveiled a new plan for determining COVID-19 risk in communities and updated its recommendations for use of face coverings, allowing nearly all of the country to go mask-free under the new guidelines.

Across the pond, in the U.K., Prime Minister Boris Johnson recently declared an end to the country’s COVID-19 mitigation measures. Similarly, countries such as Denmark and the Netherlands have already ended restrictions, while in France, most COVID-19 limitations were lifted on Monday, just weeks before the presidential elections.

The presence of BA.2, a subvariant of omicron, has also been growing rapidly across the globe.

"BA.2 is itself highly transmissible, and both BA.1 and BA.2 appear to generate comparatively short-lived protection against reinfection. So it is likely that the combination of higher inherent transmissibility and higher rates of interaction as restrictions ease are combining to generate this resurgence," Matthew Ferrari, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Dynamics at Pennsylvania State University, told ABC News.

In the U.S., the presence of BA.2 has been nearly doubling every week, according to federal data. Estimates indicate that the omicron subvariant now comprises an estimated nearly 11% of new cases in the U.S. as of March 5.

MORE: Return to pre-pandemic normalcy not yet on the horizon for many immunocompromised Americans
"We've been watching it closely, of course," White House press secretary Jen Psaki said during a White House press briefing on Monday, pointing to the fact that BA.2 appears to be more transmissible. "We currently have about 35,000 cases in this country. We expect some fluctuation, especially at this relatively low level, and certainly that to increase."

Experts say how significant a COVID-19 resurgence could be is still unclear, given how many Americans were infected in the nation’s omicron surge.

"I am hopeful that the large U.S. omicron wave will dampen a new surge, but I am concerned that we will see a resurgence as restrictions are eased," Ferrari said. "Dropping masks and other restrictions will necessarily result in an increase in risk. How big that increase will be remains to be seen."

We're doomed for a large surge of wave COVID-19 soon by this Spring and this fall....Mask mandates will be returning for rest for our lives....
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Step away from the keyboard, go outside, take a nice long breath (I suggest taking a cold Corona w lime with you to enjoy). You might see things a little differently. Oh, I did not know there was a Ferrari in the medical professions, learn something every day, to me Ferrari's are, expensive, work of art cars from Italy.
 
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DisneyFan32 said:

When the coronavirus receded across much of the globe last month and the omicron surge declined, many Americans were hopeful that was perhaps the signal that the United States was entering a new phase of the pandemic.

However, new data indicators, domestically and internationally, suggest that the virus continues to spread.

Although official counts of COVID-19 infections and hospitalizations are still declining, new wastewater data updated this week from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows the United States may be seeing the beginnings of an uptick in COVID-19 infections.

Between Feb. 24 and March 10, 37% of wastewater sites that are monitored by the CDC have seen an increase of 100% or more in the presence of the COVID-19 virus in their wastewater. Approximately 30% of these sites have seen an increase of 1,000% or more.

"It is likely we will see a new rise in cases across the United States as our wastewater data is showing a concerning signal," said Rebecca Weintraub, assistant professor of global health and social medicine at Harvard Medical School. "Now is a key moment to communicate why we need to accelerate the uptake of the COVID-19 vaccine, remind communities why boosters are needed, secure an ongoing supply of tests and N95 to communities -- especially the red zones."

Throughout the pandemic, wastewater surveillance has been a tool used as a preliminary indicator of COVID-19 trends in the U.S.

Because asymptomatic patients can shed the virus, wastewater surveillance can capture infections that may not have been identified in official counts. In addition, many Americans are taking at-home COVID-19 tests and are not reporting their results to officials, and thus, experts say, infection totals are likely undercounted.

MORE: With millions still unboosted against COVID, public health experts face tricky messaging around potential 4th shot
Wastewater data is sparse across the country, but indicators show some sites in the Northeast, including in New York, Connecticut and Pennsylvania, as well as across Ohio, have seen notable increases in the presence of COVID-19 in local wastewater.

In New York City, some sites saw a 50% increase in the presence of COVID-19 in the city's wastewater.

COVID-19 trouble brewing overseas

The uptick in the presence of COVID-19 in U.S. wastewater sites comes as other countries in Europe and in Asia are seeing significant viral resurgences.

Across some parts of Asia, COVID-19 has been surging to unprecedented levels. In Hong Kong, the number of virus-positive residents requiring hospitalization has been pushing health care facilities to the edge.


In China, more than 50 million people in the northeastern province of Jilin and the southern cities of Shenzhen and Dongguan, are heading into lockdown after a viral resurgence.

In Europe, COVID-19 cases have steadily been rising after many countries have moved to end COVID-19 restrictions.

Since the beginning of the month, new cases per capita in the United Kingdom have grown by 32% and hospitalizations are also up by 5% in the last week. In Germany, infections are up by 45%, while in Italy, daily cases have increased by 26%.

"Across Europe and in the U.K., we are seeing COVID-19 cases go up in countries just exiting from an Omicron BA.1 surge," Dr. Sam Scarpino, managing director of pathogen surveillance at the Rockefeller Foundation and a member of its Pandemic Prevention Institute, told ABC News. "Since the beginning of the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, what’s happened in Europe has happened around the globe. ... We can’t afford to sit around and let this early warning from Europe again go unheeded."

MORE: With millions still unboosted against COVID, public health experts face tricky messaging around potential 4th shot
Many health experts have been raising the alarm about the global increase in infections and hospitalizations, suggesting that Americans should be prepared for the U.S. to follow a similar viral trend.

"The next wave in Europe has begun," Dr. Eric Topol, professor of molecular medicine at Scripps Research, said in a tweet and a blog post on Saturday. "Any proclamation that the pandemic is over ignores the potential recrudescence of a new variant with high transmission and immune escape."

Presence of omicron subvariant BA.2 steadily growing

What is behind this latest COVID-19 resurgence is still unclear. However, experts say it is likely a confluence of factors.

"While we know from genome sequences that the BA.2 omicron subvariant is what’s infecting people, we still don’t know what’s causing the resurgence," Scarpino said. "Is it the increased transmissibility of BA.2, more vaccine breakthroughs, relaxing of non-pharmaceutical interventions, waning immunity, or all of the above?"

Last month, U.S. officials from the CDC unveiled a new plan for determining COVID-19 risk in communities and updated its recommendations for use of face coverings, allowing nearly all of the country to go mask-free under the new guidelines.

Across the pond, in the U.K., Prime Minister Boris Johnson recently declared an end to the country’s COVID-19 mitigation measures. Similarly, countries such as Denmark and the Netherlands have already ended restrictions, while in France, most COVID-19 limitations were lifted on Monday, just weeks before the presidential elections.

The presence of BA.2, a subvariant of omicron, has also been growing rapidly across the globe.

"BA.2 is itself highly transmissible, and both BA.1 and BA.2 appear to generate comparatively short-lived protection against reinfection. So it is likely that the combination of higher inherent transmissibility and higher rates of interaction as restrictions ease are combining to generate this resurgence," Matthew Ferrari, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Dynamics at Pennsylvania State University, told ABC News.

In the U.S., the presence of BA.2 has been nearly doubling every week, according to federal data. Estimates indicate that the omicron subvariant now comprises an estimated nearly 11% of new cases in the U.S. as of March 5.

MORE: Return to pre-pandemic normalcy not yet on the horizon for many immunocompromised Americans
"We've been watching it closely, of course," White House press secretary Jen Psaki said during a White House press briefing on Monday, pointing to the fact that BA.2 appears to be more transmissible. "We currently have about 35,000 cases in this country. We expect some fluctuation, especially at this relatively low level, and certainly that to increase."

Experts say how significant a COVID-19 resurgence could be is still unclear, given how many Americans were infected in the nation’s omicron surge.

"I am hopeful that the large U.S. omicron wave will dampen a new surge, but I am concerned that we will see a resurgence as restrictions are eased," Ferrari said. "Dropping masks and other restrictions will necessarily result in an increase in risk. How big that increase will be remains to be seen."

We're doomed for a large surge of wave COVID-19 soon by this Spring and this fall....Mask mandates will be returning for rest for our lives....
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Stop. Just stop. Please.
 
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Slight update to the mask policy - masks are now optional for fully vaccinated guests on the Skyliner.

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Minnesota disney fan

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ToTBellHop said:
It still mitigates because immunity wanes over time. Giving that 44% stronger immunity leading into any potential surge does relieve strain on healthcare.

I agree with you that I shake my head a bit when I read “we really need to vaccinate more people.” We do, but it’s not gonna happen.

All of that is why I’m skeptical of mask mandates returning. We are reaching the point where the situation is the situation and people aren’t going to change. So, we just have to live with it.
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The amount of people being vaccinated is always talked about.
But, Why are we not talking about the scores of people who are immune from having the virus?? That type of immunity must be better than a vaccine. These people need to be figured in as immune, just as the vaccinated are, but they are neglecting to mention that, IMO>
 
ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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Minnesota disney fan said:
The amount of people being vaccinated is always talked about.
But, Why are we not talking about the scores of people who are immune from having the virus?? That type of immunity must be better than a vaccine. These people need to be figured in as immune, just as the vaccinated are, but they are neglecting to mention that, IMO>
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Um…they are included.

Immunity from contracting omicron does not last very long. A couple months. People need to stop acting like they get a medal for getting sick. Almost all of us have had COVID and yet people still get it. I’m triple vaxxed and have had COVID twice.

Still alive, though. And never hospitalized. The sore throat stunk, though.
 
mattpeto

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Disney4Lyfe said:
Do you have a source for this?
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The way I understand might be old and outdated.

You make a high level of antibodies after the vaccine, booster or infection. After a few months, the antibodies start to diminish, but you have memory cells that should help you fight off severe illness and death. I always thought that was the goal.

It sure feels like the goalpost has shifted dramatically to just reduce the amount of infection totals. If the goal is to raise the antibody counts every few months, boosters are going to be needed on a quarterly basis. That's simply not sustainable in my opinion.
 
Rich Brownn

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Tom P. said:
People need to stop acting like they get a medal for being vaccinated.

The overall hospitalization rate for Covid is 2.1%. So 97.9% of people who get Covid don't get hospitalized.

You aren't a superhero because you got Covid and stayed out of the hospital.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

How Many SARS-CoV-2-Infected People Require Hospitalization? Using Random Sample Testing to Better Inform Preparedness Efforts - PubMed

In this first study of the IHR based on population prevalence, our results can improve forecasting models of hospital demand-especially in preparation for the upcoming winter period when an increase in SARS CoV-2 infections is expected.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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That data is 2 years old. 2% doesn't make sense. Since the death rate is 2% in the US that would mean 100% of the people hospitalized would be dead.
 
Tom P.

Tom P.

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Rich Brownn said:
That data is 2 years old. 2% doesn't make sense. Since the death rate is 2% in the US that would mean 100% of the people hospitalized would be dead.
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That report is from May and June of 2021. It is less than one year old. And that puts it before Omicron, which is generally more mild, and also before nearly as many people were vaccinated.

Also, according to Johns Hopkins, the case fatality rate in the United States is actually 1.2%.

coronavirus.jhu.edu

Mortality Analyses - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

How does mortality differ across countries? Examining the number of deaths per confirmed case and per 100,000 population. A global comparison.
coronavirus.jhu.edu coronavirus.jhu.edu
 
TikibirdLand

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Tom P. said:
People need to stop acting like they get a medal for being vaccinated.

The overall hospitalization rate for Covid is 2.1%. So 97.9% of people who get Covid don't get hospitalized.

You aren't a superhero because you got Covid and stayed out of the hospital.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

How Many SARS-CoV-2-Infected People Require Hospitalization? Using Random Sample Testing to Better Inform Preparedness Efforts - PubMed

In this first study of the IHR based on population prevalence, our results can improve forecasting models of hospital demand-especially in preparation for the upcoming winter period when an increase in SARS CoV-2 infections is expected.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Does that mean I have to give back my cape? After all, I just got done seeing Batman...

From the videos I've seen, it's good to know that 100% of the people at WDW right now are vaccinated. Not a mask in sight!
 
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