News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

[Lilofan]

Right now as it stands in Canada there is this insane 14-day quarantine rule set up for returning travelers. Now, it is completely unconstitutional and what people don't always realize is that they cannot force you to do this upon returning back to Canada. You can refuse and they can't do a thing about it. It has happened with many people. It is just a well kept secret and most people don't have the nerve to try it. That is when you take a plane to the U.S. or anywhere out of Canada. But the border is closed for driving right now. I said this back in April of 2020 that there is no way they would keep this closed over the summer then either to discourage travelling, and they did. Still have. So you can only get to the U.S. by plane right now. We had to cancel a Darien Lake weekend last summer - twice.

But here is the problem, both my wife and I have to worry about our work. It is possible that we can get an exception to do this, but could both of us? I don't know. I don't want to go to Florida for 10 days and then not be able to work for 14 afterwards. So if our work doesn't let us come back for another two weeks that's a problem obviously, and a bit of a deal breaker. Maybe you are Canadian and what I am telling you you already know, but I just can't book something and not even know if we can cross the border. It is very frustrating, because I have my eye on an October trip if we could.

Are you in Ontario too?

What's a nice perk is during the 14 day quarantine the person in quarantine gets paid for it courtesy of Canada.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

As a "frontline" worker all I can say is boy do I ever despise that term. Same thing with "essential worker." It just grates my skin. It is so utterly arrogant that people use that term. I'm in a factory, so we never closed, but the pride of being one of these people and the expected applause is just so nauseating to me.

As someone who worked in a convenience store for a couple of years many moons ago, I think it's nice to see the world finally realizing that they deserve some appreciation.

 

[Walt Disney1955]

I know my essential worker spouse appreciates people realizing without them, things will come to a halt. Then again he's IT and worked his behind off to keep things running. Working for a law firm, they never closed and had to find ways to get all employees WFH in a short time. He wasn't home much at first and probably put in double the hours for about a month in the beginning. So maybe nauseating to you, but it's not to all.

I just find the term nauseating, that's all. I don't find it heroic to go to work. It is just something that has always been done. My big beef is that a hairdresser who has gone to school for that stuff and worked their tail off as well gets shut down and NOT considered "essential" which I find very disrespectful. I guess you can say that's why I hate the term.

 

[Walt Disney1955]

What's a nice perk is during the 14 day quarantine the person in quarantine gets paid for it courtesy of Canada.

It doesn't work that way.

As someone who worked in a convenience store for a couple of years many moons ago, I think it's nice to see the world finally realizing that they deserve some appreciation.

I think we always should regardless to everyone.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

I think we always should regardless to everyone.

I agree. I think a large percentage of the population is downright horrible to people who work in the service industries or what they consider "low rung" jobs. Perhaps some of the shift will hang around after the pandemic is over.

 

[correcaminos]

I just find the term nauseating, that's all. I don't find it heroic to go to work. It is just something that has always been done. My big beef is that a hairdresser who has gone to school for that stuff and worked their tail off as well gets shut down and NOT considered "essential" which I find very disrespectful. I guess you can say that's why I hate the term.

To each their own I guess, my husband went to school for his stuff and had many years of thankless on-call 24/7 so maybeI think people are deserving of being recognized. . It's not about heroic though, it's about realizing people won't function without certain jobs. Yes it soucked about people like stylists. Ours were shut down for over 2 months. Daycares were shut down too though for a while. Some of it did not make sense.

I agree. I think a large percentage of the population is downright horrible to people who work in the service industries or what they consider "low rung" jobs. Perhaps that some of the shift will hang around after the pandemic is over.

Sadly I doubt it. Though I have a lot of love for those in the service industries. Been a worker there myself and it is truly thankless.

 

[danlb_2000]

Right now as it stands in Canada there is this insane 14-day quarantine rule set up for returning travelers. Now, it is completely unconstitutional and what people don't always realize is that they cannot force you to do this upon returning back to Canada. You can refuse and they can't do a thing about it. It has happened with many people. It is just a well kept secret and most people don't have the nerve to try it. That is when you take a plane to the U.S. or anywhere out of Canada. But the border is closed for driving right now. I said this back in April of 2020 that there is no way they would keep this closed over the summer then either to discourage travelling, and they did. Still have. So you can only get to the U.S. by plane right now. We had to cancel a Darien Lake weekend last summer - twice.

But here is the problem, both my wife and I have to worry about our work. It is possible that we can get an exception to do this, but could both of us? I don't know. I don't want to go to Florida for 10 days and then not be able to work for 14 afterwards. So if our work doesn't let us come back for another two weeks that's a problem obviously, and a bit of a deal breaker. Maybe you are Canadian and what I am telling you you already know, but I just can't book something and not even know if we can cross the border. It is very frustrating, because I have my eye on an October trip if we could.

Are you in Ontario too?

I saw a story on the news about Point Roberts which is part of the US, but at the end of a Canadian peninsula so is complete land locked from the rest the US.

 

[Walt Disney1955]

I agree. I think a large percentage of the population is downright horrible to people who work in the service industries or what they consider "low rung" jobs. Perhaps that some of the shift will hang around after the pandemic is over.

I feel that the so-called white collar jobs and lifestyles and blue collar jobs and lifestyles have sort gotten a larger gap between them during this time.

To each their own I guess, my husband went to school for his stuff and had many years of thankless on-call 24/7 so maybeI think people are deserving of being recognized. . It's not about heroic though, it's about realizing people won't function without certain jobs. Yes it soucked about people like stylists. Ours were shut down for over 2 months. Daycares were shut down too though for a while. Some of it did not make sense.

Fair enough.

 

[Walt Disney1955]

I saw a story on the news about Point Roberts which is part of the US, but at the end of a Canadian peninsula so is complete land locked from the rest the US.

That's horrible.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

I feel that the so-called white collar jobs and lifestyles and blue collar jobs and lifestyles have sort gotten a larger gap between them during this time.

I absolutely agree.

 

[danlb_2000]

I agree. I think a large percentage of the population is downright horrible to people who work in the service industries or what they consider "low rung" jobs. Perhaps that some of the shift will hang around after the pandemic is over.

There is a Disneyland Podcast called the Sweep Spot which is done by two former Disneyland custodial workers. A least one worked as a sweeper for quite some time and did it because he really loved working there. He told a story once of mother and her young daughter walking past him as he was working and he overheard the mother say to the daughter, referring to him, "that is what you end up doing if you don't get a good education"

 

[ImperfectPixie]

There is a Disneyland Podcast called the Sweep Spot which is done by two former Disneyland custodial workers. A least one worked as a sweeper for quite some time and did it because he really loved working there. He told a story once of mother and her young daughter walking past him as he was working and he overheard the mother say to the daughter, referring to him, "that is what you end up doing if you don't get a good education"

And that kind of behavior needs to stop.

ETA: Instead of using someone as an example for children, we should be telling them that lacking a good education severely limits your employment options, and chances are good that you'll have no choice but to take a job you hate.

 

[Lilofan]

There is a Disneyland Podcast called the Sweep Spot which is done by two former Disneyland custodial workers. A least one worked as a sweeper for quite some time and did it because he really loved working there. He told a story once of mother and her young daughter walking past him as he was working and he overheard the mother say to the daughter, referring to him, "that is what you end up doing if you don't get a good education"

That's unfortunate. 15 years ago when I was on vacation in La Paz Bolivia there were street sweepers cleaning the city streets. There faces were hidden with masks/bandanas so they could not be seen,recognized. Every job is an important job in the service industry.

 

[danlb_2000]

That's unfortunate. 15 years ago when I was on vacation in La Paz Bolivia there were street sweepers cleaning the city streets. There faces were hidden with masks/bandanas so they could not be seen,recognized. Every job is an important job in the service industry.

To Quote the Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy...

"These tales of impending doom allowed the Golgafrinchans to rid themselves of an entire useless third of their population. The story was that they would build three Ark ships. Into the A ship would go all the leaders, scientists and other high achievers. The C ship would contain all the people who made things and did things, and the B Ark would hold everyone else, such as hairdressers and telephone sanitisers. They sent the B ship off first, but of course, the other two-thirds of the population stayed on the planet and lived full, rich and happy lives until they were all wiped out by a virulent disease contracted from a dirty telephone."

 

[jaklgreen]

As a "frontline" worker all I can say is boy do I ever despise that term. Same thing with "essential worker." It just grates my skin. It is so utterly arrogant that people use that term. I'm in a factory, so we never closed, but the pride of being one of these people and the expected applause is just so nauseating to me.

Nobody has applauded me. LOL I don't expect them to. I just don't want to be treated like I'm an idiot and beneath everyone else that has a "real" job.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Nobody has applauded me. LOL I don't expect them to. I just don't want to be treated like I'm an idiot and beneath everyone else that has a "real" job.

Not an unreasonable want by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[tpac24]

As a "frontline" worker all I can say is boy do I ever despise that term. Same thing with "essential worker." It just grates my skin. It is so utterly arrogant that people use that term. I'm in a factory, so we never closed, but the pride of being one of these people and the expected applause is just so nauseating to me.

This "everybody is a Hero" and "not all super Hero's wear capes" nonsense has gotten bigger since Covid and it is truly nauseating and waters down the term. The fact that a huge chunk of society thinks you need a ticker tape parade for doing your job shows what a narcissistic self centered society we have become.

 

[Walt Disney1955]

This "everybody is a Hero" and "not all super Hero's wear capes" nonsense has gotten bigger since Covid and it is truly nauseating and waters down the term. The fact that a huge chunk of society thinks you need a ticker tape parade for doing your job shows what a narcissistic self centered society we have become.

Pretty much, that's my thought as well. It is a little embarrassing. Our grandfather's generation beat the tar out of the Nazis and literally risked their lives doing so. That's a hero to me. What I do by going to work everyday is just being a regular father. Worthy of respect sure, as some fathers take off and abandon their kids, but nothing out of the ordinary. You are right how we water things down too much.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Pretty much, that's my thought as well. It is a little embarrassing. Our grandfather's generation beat the tar out of the Nazis and literally risked their lives doing so. That's a hero to me. What I do by going to work everyday is just being a regular father. Worthy of respect sure, as some fathers take off and abandon their kids, but nothing out of the ordinary. You are right how we water things down too much.

You do have a very valid point. However, if calling people "just doing their jobs" heroic during a pandemic when the safer choice would be to stay home is what it takes for people to stop treating other people like dirt, I'm all for it.

Snobbery is one of the human behaviors I hate most. Having more money, being smarter, being more athletic, having more talent, etc...these qualities may set some of us apart from others and make us stand out in some way, but they don't make anyone "better" or "more worthy" of anything than another person. We're all unique, and all have ways we can contribute...and there are some in the world who need to be reminded of that.

 

[Walt Disney1955]

You do have a very valid point. However, if calling people "just doing their jobs" heroic during a pandemic when the safer choice would be to stay home is what it takes for people to stop treating other people like dirt, I'm all for it.

Snobbery is one of the human behaviors I hate most. Having more money, being smarter, being more athletic, having more talent, etc...these qualities may set some of us apart from others and make us stand out in some way, but they don't make anyone "better" or "more worthy" of anything than another person. We're all unique, and all have ways we can contribute...and there are some in the world who need to be reminded of that.

I guess my thought is while in an indirect way I go to work for the better good of society and always have, the most direct reason is for taking care of my own family. I suppose since my dad, his dad, and his dad before him did this I am not special in anyway, and for someone who works in a meat plant, I've always known that whoever orders ribs (which are expensive) at a restaurant I usually saw them first, haha. So I ignore anyone who is snobbish about it.