Tom P.
Well-Known Member
But we are asking your opinion.They don’t ask me my opinion.
But we are asking your opinion.They don’t ask me my opinion.
A year ago people who were uncomfortable wearing masks were ridiculed, called babies and told to get over themselves. Now the vaccinated people who can’t stop wearing masks despite the CDC’s position that they’re not necessary are demanding that their comfort level be given consideration. Okay.
What’s really simple is there are huge differences between WDW and your local strip mall.but it really is that simple. I would say the majority of guest probably expect no masks indoor/outdoor at this point.
I would say that’s nearly 100% tied to what they consume/regurgitate and 0% to do with Disney considerations on how they want to run the show.but it really is that simple. I would say the majority of guest probably expect no masks indoor/outdoor at this point.
What are your considered thoughts ?They don’t ask me my opinion.
That there will be no mandate by July 4.What are your considered thoughts ?
Which year ?That there will be no mandate by July 4.
Sigh. Are you suggesting they are putting masks on sale and limiting further production because they want to sell them for many more months?Which year ?
Not suggesting anything. Just July 4th is a bit open .Sigh. Are you suggesting they are putting masks on sale and limiting further production because they want to sell them for many more months?
they are looking at people that try to go daily, youtubers, vloggers, people who drop their kids off. I assume disneyland had alot more of that than the world.We are DVC owners and Platinum Plus Annual holders. We visit 4 times a year and spend tons in the stores and restaurants. If we couldn't have an annual pass we would probably stop going. I certainly hope Disney appreciates us snd understands that it is mutually beneficial.
???????Sigh. Are you suggesting they are putting masks on sale and limiting further production because they want to sell them for many more months?
Very good points. I do wonder if they will tier even non-resort guests. For example, is somone with a 1 or 2 day ticket less likely to spend money than someone with a 7 day? But fair points all around.Non-resort Guests are not the "lower priority/low spend guests". I'd call them middle priority. They spend a lot on their daily ticket and almost certainly a lot on food and souvenirs.
From his statement at last month's J.P. Morgan conference, it's clear who Chapek thinks (knows) who are low priority Guests:
We took the opportunity to revisit sort of our legacy operations to improve the yield because it is the ultimate in a capacity-constrained environment but also to improve our guest experience where we've had an opportunity to look at things like pricing and ticketing outside the constraint of an ongoing concern and ongoing business when we shut down for a year. So that really gave us the opportunity to say, when we emerge, how do we want to emerge and how does that fit our yielding strategy and our guest experience strategy? Things like annual pass. There's probably no better example here than annual pass, where it's a legacy system, and people keep signing up year after year after year, which may or may not play into your yield management strategy in an ideal way. So we had a chance to thoughtfully and thoroughly reconsider that.Annual Pass Holders who do not stay onsite are in Chapek's crosshairs. Chapek is looking at these with a microscope.
With no blockout dates, a "high tier AP" just makes the parks more crowded on what should be Disney's most profitable days. Don't fool yourself into thinking that Chapek values an offsite Platinum APH anywhere near as much as he values an onsite Resort Guest who between hotel, ticket, and food, is spending hundreds of dollars per person each day.
No way there are enough of those to make a material difference. He's looking at all APs. I would be surprised to see APs return at WDW, and even if they do, I'd look for them to be replaced with some kind of membership system like whatever DLR ends up with.they are looking at people that try to go daily, youtubers, vloggers, people who drop their kids off. I assume disneyland had alot more of that than the world.
I don't think it is vloggers and the like. It is more the locals who just pop in frequently because the passes are unlimited (except for blackouts) and it's something to do. They don't spend nearly as much because they can have meals at home and don't need to buy souvenirs constantly.No way there are enough of those to make a material difference. He's looking at all APs. I would be surprised to see APs return at WDW, and even if they do, I'd look for them to be replaced with some kind of membership system like whatever DLR ends up with.
Considering most all other parks are not requiring masks indoors leads to most guests not expecting masks to be required indoorsI think it’s very dependent on where you are living. Where I am everyone still generally masks up inside stores. And kids are still wearing masks in schools. It wouldn’t be unreasonable to think Disney has the same protocols at this time.
Furthermore some people would probably feel less at ease without safety protocols at a crowded place with people from all over like WDW than they do at their local grocery store.
Note: personally I don’t care if WDW got rid of masks ASAP. Wouldn’t worry or bother me if I were there. But I think some here are overselling how commonplace it is that mask mandates have stopped. There still a lot of places that have them in place and a lot of people who would feel uncomfortable without them indoors.
Why would people expect all theme parks to operate the same, especially with how quickly everything has moved the past 6 weeks? I don't show up at Universal looking to book my 3 free fastpasses.Considering most all other parks are not requiring masks indoors leads to most guests not expecting masks to be required indoors
And three days later, the Epcot splash pad by M:S is open to rinse off the snot from the M:S Discovery Zone playset! Book your park reservations!I understand, unfortunately, splash pads are going to be returning. But also water features on water rides! Apparently, new science suggests the water sprayer on Splash only spreads amoebic dysentery, not Covid!
Most people going to WDW aren't paying any attention to what other parks are doing. It's not like some couple from Chicago is going to look at Sea World's mask policy when they are planning their WDW trip.Considering most all other parks are not requiring masks indoors leads to most guests not expecting masks to be required indoors
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