News Disney Jollywood Nights - Disney's Hollywood Studios Holiday Season ticketed event

pdude81

pdude81

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LittleBuford said:
This is another false analogy. Sticking with your cinema theme, here's one that actually works:

A group of people attend a movie screening. Because of technical issues, the quality of the sound and picture is off the entire time, rendering the film difficult to enjoy. This leads a good portion of those in the audience to ask for their money back after the screening. Among these people is a reviewer who's going to get paid for his review of the movie. That's the person you're criticising for asking for a refund.
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How would a professional reviewer write a review of a film that had major sound and picture issues? To me that would be highly unethical. If the picture is trash and it's hard to even watch, you get up and get your refund on the way out. A That would have been perfectly respectable for someone to do. Instead this person stayed through the whole event, filmed it for monetization, then went and waited in line at Guest Services for a refund after it was over.

They have the right to ask for a refund, but I think it's in poor taste.
 
TrainsOfDisney

TrainsOfDisney

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pdude81 said:
They have the right to ask for a refund, but I think it's in poor taste.
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Actually, I think it’s a good thing that they, and many others asked for a refund. Disney needs to see that this type of event is totally unacceptable. It would be wrong to not ask for a refund and let Disney think they were satisfied or they think it was worth the money.

This was the opening night - and Disney didn’t even try.
 
LittleBuford

LittleBuford

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pdude81 said:
How would a professional reviewer write a review of a film that had major sound and picture issues? To me that would be highly unethical. If the picture is trash and it's hard to even watch, you get up and get your refund on the way out. A That would have been perfectly respectable for someone to do. Instead this person stayed through the whole event, filmed it for monetization, then went and waited in line at Guest Services for a refund after it was over.

They have the right to ask for a refund, but I think it's in poor taste.
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Replace “reviewer” with “YouTuber with a film-review channel”. Either way, the person paid money for the experience and has the same entitlement to a refund as everyone else.
 
discos

discos

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TrainsOfDisney said:
Actually, I think it’s a good thing that they, and many others asked for a refund. Disney needs to see that this type of event is totally unacceptable. It would be wrong to not ask for a refund and let Disney think they were satisfied or they think it was worth the money.

This was the opening night - and Disney didn’t even try.
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Exactly. They can't keep delivering these sub-par experiences and expect people to be okay with paying top dollar. It's reached a breaking point now. Gotta hit them where it hurts and in this case, it's the $$$.
 
LSLS

LSLS

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Wow, wonder if the discounts mean they aren't making any significant changes and are just going to roll with what is there and take the money they presold, or if they will try to upgrade and use cast member word of mouth since the vloggers are mostly done and gone.
 
TheMaxRebo

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Doberge said:
A $10 discount is the same as AP and DVC, on dates those discounts even exists. $10 is also de minimus and I can't imagine a significant number of folks being persuaded by $10 savings.
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That was my first take - seems more like a "see, we give you all extra benefits!" More than really trying to make up for sluggish sales

Now if they get to like 50% off or just giving them away or something, that would be different
 
TheMaxRebo

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LSLS said:
Wow, wonder if the discounts mean they aren't making any significant changes and are just going to roll with what is there and take the money they presold, or if they will try to upgrade and use cast member word of mouth since the vloggers are mostly done and gone.
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I can't imagine they have time for any significant changes - I do hope they add some staff and improve the logistics .... Maybe add some more theming to the Tip Top Club and Brown Derby, maybe try to have some more characters so aren't having to alternate for the meets. Add moe bars/bar staff to reduce waits.

Definitely some small and realistic changes that could be done to make it a more enjoyable experience than opening night was but likely can't really change the overall experience much
 
LSLS

LSLS

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TheMaxRebo said:
I can't imagine they have time for any significant changes - I do hope they add some staff and improve the logistics .... Maybe add some more theming to the Tip Top Club and Brown Derby, maybe try to have some more characters so aren't having to alternate for the meets. Add moe bars/bar staff to reduce waits.

Definitely some small and realistic changes that could be done to make it a more enjoyable experience than opening night was but likely can't really change the overall experience much
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I guess I see major changes as one that fix a majority of the complaints. And I think those things you listed would take care of a lot of the complaints. No, it doesn't fix everything, but even the rosiest of the Disney vloggers mentioned these things as big issues.
 
TrainsOfDisney

TrainsOfDisney

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This also shines a spotlight on another issue at WDW - in the past there were so many full time musicians, actors and entertainers working on property that it would be realistic to quickly add more entertainment.

While it would still be possible to move some schedules around - most of these entertainment departments have been eliminated (streetmosphere at DHS & MK) or cut down extremely small. (5 night per week at hoop for example).
 
asianway

asianway

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TheMaxRebo said:
I can't imagine they have time for any significant changes - I do hope they add some staff and improve the logistics .... Maybe add some more theming to the Tip Top Club and Brown Derby, maybe try to have some more characters so aren't having to alternate for the meets. Add moe bars/bar staff to reduce waits.

Definitely some small and realistic changes that could be done to make it a more enjoyable experience than opening night was but likely can't really change the overall experience much
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Nothing significant will change. Likely will improve the entry procedures and set up more bars. That’s it
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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I think the biggest takeaway from Jollywood Nights is that they should build out a real Tip Top Club with a separate bank of elevators a-la Space 220. A beautiful Art-Deco Ballroom and restaurant with windows overlooking 1939 Hollywood and the hills...add Haunted craft cocktail lounge and it would be a fantastic hit... It would also make a great Special Events area.
 
Ayla

Ayla

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TheMaxRebo said:
I can't imagine they have time for any significant changes - I do hope they add some staff and improve the logistics .... Maybe add some more theming to the Tip Top Club and Brown Derby, maybe try to have some more characters so aren't having to alternate for the meets. Add moe bars/bar staff to reduce waits.

Definitely some small and realistic changes that could be done to make it a more enjoyable experience than opening night was but likely can't really change the overall experience much
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Doing what you suggested would greatly improve the overall experience.
 

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