Disney Genie and Genie+ at Walt Disney World

[matt9112]

I don't think think it's WDW demand death, I think it's tourism demand death, courtesy of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

JetBlue is advertising flights from Providence to Orlando for $64. That's insane.

Man i need to fly up and visit again at that rate. Thats frontier pricing.

 

[jpinkc]

I don't think think it's WDW demand death, I think it's tourism demand death, courtesy of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

JetBlue is advertising flights from Providence to Orlando for $64. That's insane.

Wish I could have that rate for our Nov trip its over 3K just to fly round trip for 4 of us with stops and layovers

 

[Sorcerer Mickey]

Nobody is going to buy IAS for the current slate of rides except Rise and MAYBE Flight of Passage. Ratatouille was a flop and that was the only other candidate until Tron and Guardians.

Is Ratatouille really considered a flop already?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Is Ratatouille really considered a flop already?

I don't think it's a flop in the sense of "pretty good attraction added to World Showcase."

I do think it's a flop in the sense of "flagship attraction that requires a Virtual Queue and will drive IAS sales."

 

[ToTBellHop]

Is Ratatouille really considered a flop already?

I don't think it's a flop in the sense of "pretty good attraction added to World Showcase."

I do think it's a flop in the sense of "flagship attraction that requires a Virtual Queue and will drive IAS sales."

Exactly. As a ride in the same “land” as FEA and Gran Fiesta, it’s great.

Absolutely no need for the VQ. Just open ‘er up!

If they want $24, they better get Guardians open.

 

[Patcheslee]

Wish I could have that rate for our Nov trip its over 3K just to fly round trip for 4 of us with stops and layovers

Cheapest we can get is Allegiant $244 round trip with fees, and the paranoia of very few flights daily. Costs the same at Delta.

 

[Sorcerer Mickey]

I don't think it's a flop in the sense of "pretty good attraction added to World Showcase."

I do think it's a flop in the sense of "flagship attraction that requires a Virtual Queue and will drive IAS sales."

Oh, I see. It's a solid ride but yeah, not in the same tier as RoTR and FoP.

 

[macefamily]

Wish I could have that rate for our Nov trip its over 3K just to fly round trip for 4 of us with stops and layovers

I'm looking at early November trip to see the Christmas decorations. Frontier is $50 roundtrip for Den Members from Philly to Orlando.

 

[G00fyDad]

Nobody is going to buy IAS for the current slate of rides except Rise and MAYBE Flight of Passage. Ratatouille was a flop and that was the only other candidate until Tron and Guardians.

I am planning on buying:

• Disney's Hollywood Studios - Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance
• Magic Kingdom - Seven Dwarfs Mine Train
• EPCOT - Remy's Ratatouille Adventure
• Disney's Animal Kingdom - Avatar Flight of Passage

I guess I am Nobody.

 

[dreday3]

I don't think it's a flop in the sense of "pretty good attraction added to World Showcase."

I do think it's a flop in the sense of "flagship attraction that requires a Virtual Queue and will drive IAS sales."

I read yesterday that 1 pm boarding groups were available until after 5, but I think the 7 am ones go pretty fast?

Maybe people showing up after 5/the dinner crowd would want to buy a pass?

 

[macefamily]

So what's the deal with Genie, can someone explain ? So there's no more 3 initial Fast Passes ? Also, how many "Lightning Line" passes can you purchase and how much are they ? Thanks.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I am planning on buying:

• Disney's Hollywood Studios - Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance
• Magic Kingdom - Seven Dwarfs Mine Train
• EPCOT - Remy's Ratatouille Adventure
• Disney's Animal Kingdom - Avatar Flight of Passage

I guess I am Nobody.

Why would you *pay money* to skip the line at a ride where you can skip the line for free?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

So what's the deal with Genie, can someone explain ? So there's no more 3 initial Fast Passes ? Also, how many "Lightning Line" passes can you purchase and how much are they ? Thanks.

There's no such thing as "Lightning Lane passes." "Lightning Lane" is just what they call the FastPass line now.

Genie+ costs $15 per person per day and includes Lightning Lane access at most of the rides in each park, except for the top two rides, which Disney sells separately. Genie+ enables you to book the next available Lightning Lane time slot at participating attractions similar to the way the old paper FastPasses worked, except it's on your phone now.

For the two attractions per park that aren't on Genie+, you can pay for Lightning Lane access a la carte. Pricing has not been announced, but it will fluctuate depending on the attraction and time of year. Pricing is not expected to fluctuate within a given day. These are called "Individual Attraction Selections."

 

[macefamily]

There's no such thing as "Lightning Lane passes." "Lightning Lane" is just what they call the FastPass line now.

Genie+ costs $15 per person per day and includes Lightning Lane access at most of the rides in each park, except for the top two rides, which Disney sells separately. Genie+ enables you to book the next available Lightning Lane time slot at participating attractions similar to the way the old paper FastPasses worked, except it's on your phone now.

For the two attractions per park that aren't on Genie+, you can pay for Lightning Lane access a la carte. Pricing has not been announced, but it will fluctuate depending on the attraction and time of year. Pricing is not expected to fluctuate within a given day. These are called "Individual Attraction Selections."

Thank you for the explanation.

 

[G00fyDad]

Why would you *pay money* to skip the line at a ride where you can skip the line for free?

How do I skip it for free?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

How do I skip it for free?

At Rat?

Virtual queue.

 

[G00fyDad]

At Rat?

Virtual queue.

Maybe. I want to see how this November goes before I just skip the IAS. If it is easy to get then I will do so. If not then I'll pay. I am hoping that this November shows me low crowds and easy to get BG's. if so then I may not buy any IAS at all.

 

[Waters Back Side]

Why would you *pay money* to skip the line at a ride where you can skip the line for free?

This depends on your tolerance of waiting and time/planning. I can totally see why someone might pay. Even if they would prefer not to.

Remy is not a guarantee for the VQ. Its a lottery like Rise and when its busy, the 2nd chance might not happen either. It is easier now but lets see Thanksgiving and the holidays...

Ill be buying Slinky, Rise, and FOP with the hopes I can get Remy free. If not ill want to buy it and avoid the long wait between Christmas and New Year. So I will be buying 4 also. No plans for Space or SDMT in MK. One is not worth it to me and the other i've been on a zillion times.

 

[dreday3]

Gosh, I was looking at the TP app just now - does no one go on Soarin anymore? It's 5 minute wait!!! And it was pretty low yesterday too.

All lines at all parks outside of ROTR and FoP are under 60 minutes at the moment.

If it stays like this, I'm not buying any IAS unless I can't control myself and want to ride Rat our arrival night!
But I would purchase Genie + for a day at MK and DHS, just to be able to schedule some rides ahead of time. Save some line time.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Gosh, I was looking at the TP app just now - does no one go on Soarin anymore? It's 5 minute wait!!! And it was pretty low yesterday too.

All lines at all parks outside of ROTR and FoP are under 60 minutes at the moment.

If it stays like this, I'm not buying any IAS unless I can't control myself and want to ride Rat our arrival night!

Jungle Cruise is at 65, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense.