DisneyDreamer08
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Does anyone know if a multi pass LL time can overlap with a single LL pass time?
I believe it can... it's a separate "thing"Does anyone know if a multi pass LL time can overlap with a single LL pass time?
I'm pretty sure Multi-Pass LL can overlap with itself. It won't let you pre-schedule it that way, but same-day it seems to let people modify to overlapping slots.Does anyone know if a multi pass LL time can overlap with a single LL pass time?
This seems to be true. I’ve seen some reports of people getting an overlap of 15 or 20 mins in pre-booking but no more than that, but day of that restriction seems to be lifted. It also applies to ADRs. If you have an ADR they won’t “suggest” a time that overlaps it. The opposite is not true. If you have a LL reservation you will not be stopped from booking an ADR for the same time. Weird quirks of the system.I'm pretty sure Multi-Pass LL can overlap with itself. It won't let you pre-schedule it that way, but same-day it seems to let people modify to overlapping slots.
One pre booked ride should absolutely be good enough. The fact that tiers exist supports this. The other two are a deceptive sales pitch.One pre booked ride isn't good enough. It needs to be 3 to fill rooms.
MaxPass and the fully Digitized Disneyland system have been ideal.Every scheme since paper FastPasses has been terrible.
Disneyland is currently just on a re-branded G+ right now aren't they?MaxPass and the fully Digitized Disneyland system have been ideal.
Taking the price point of the equation, Disneyland currently has the best version of a line skipping program. Disney World currently has the worst version of a line skipping program.
The current version at Disney World is going to cost them money from my family. We had planned on two trips in 2025, that is almost certainly being reduced to 1, possibly 0.
MaxPass and the fully Digitized Disneyland system have been ideal.
Taking the price point of the equation, Disneyland currently has the best version of a line skipping program. Disney World currently has the worst version of a line skipping program.
The current version at Disney World is going to cost them money from my family. We had planned on two trips in 2025, that is almost certainly being reduced to 1, possibly 0.
This entire charade should be unnecessary. The idea of "same day drops" and scheduling was a significant infrastructure expense that probably wasn't justified. The average guest isn't going to know about these things and again it's adding a layer of complexity.Alright 11:15am time to "use" Big Thunder and rebook:
Currently "Booked" (5 refreshes allowed):
LL "used" with standby time at the time it was "used:
- 12:00pm HM
- 3:00pm Tiana
- 4:50pm Space Mountain
Total posted standby time: 65 minutes
- Pooh (9:25am) 25 minutes
- Big Thunder (11:15am) 40 minutes
Agreed. The bottom line is Disney feels this system will sell more at WDW than Genie+ did. That’s the goal. DLR is a different animal and the pre-planning aspect would not be as popular there. I don’t think Disney is just allowing the pre-planning to make guests happy, I think they are also banking on more people buying and buying for more days because of it. With buying “day of“ people are more likely to decide on the day buy or don’t buy. I think the pre-booking is just as much about locking in sales as it is satisfying guests who don’t want to wake up at 7am on vacation to buy.I know this is has been said multiple times but I think it’s still relevant to this current conversation, what would be the logic from their perspective in Disney reverting to a system that costs the exact same as the previous one, but instead takes on more attributes of an older system, making it a lesser system? To me that makes absolutely no sense. The various better options that have been proposed here are certainly not unique or groundbreaking in the sense that Disney couldn’t or wouldn’t have come up with them on their own and possibly considered them or aspects from them. That they went to the prebooked 3 over all other options tells me they have reason to believe it was in fact the better system overall for the groups they are targeting as consumers of LLMP and LLSP. Like many have pointed out, the obvious shift to a prebooked system from Genie+ would have been simply allow that first attractions to be booked ahead of time but otherwise nothing changes. They instead completely upended the whole thing and went with not only 3 but a scheduled 3. I think the choose your own times aspect is likely also something they found was an important aspect to keeping people happy aka spending.
I think it’s even further supported that at WDW the system is the way it is by design and not by incompetence by the way DLR and WDW have distinctly different systems, with DLR being much friendlier to short visits and unplanned/flexible guests. I think this reflects the difference in the make up of guests on the two coasts and how people visit the two resorts.
Disliking this new system is (obviously) a valid take, as is discussing how it could be different and better in one persons opinion. I just don’t think they fell into the version they have at WDW by accident, I think they have reason to believe the 3 attractions in advance on one’s own schedule - despite how some seasoned guests may feel about the quality of the 3 - is key when it comes to encouraging advance purchases and even on-site resort bookings.
I know this is has been said multiple times but I think it’s still relevant to this current conversation, what would be the logic from their perspective in Disney reverting to a system that costs the exact same as the previous one, but instead takes on more attributes of an older system, making it a lesser system? To me that makes absolutely no sense. The various better options that have been proposed here are certainly not unique or groundbreaking in the sense that Disney couldn’t or wouldn’t have come up with them on their own and possibly considered them or aspects from them. That they went to the prebooked 3 over all other options tells me they have reason to believe it was in fact the better system overall for the groups they are targeting as consumers of LLMP and LLSP. Like many have pointed out, the obvious shift to a prebooked system from Genie+ would have been simply allow that first attractions to be booked ahead of time but otherwise nothing changes. They instead completely upended the whole thing and went with not only 3 but a scheduled 3. I think the choose your own times aspect is likely also something they found was an important aspect to keeping people happy aka spending.
I think it’s even further supported that at WDW the system is the way it is by design and not by incompetence by the way DLR and WDW have distinctly different systems, with DLR being much friendlier to short visits and unplanned/flexible guests. I think this reflects the difference in the make up of guests on the two coasts and how people visit the two resorts.
Disliking this new system is (obviously) a valid take, as is discussing how it could be different and better in one persons opinion. I just don’t think they fell into the version they have at WDW by accident, I think they have reason to believe the 3 attractions in advance on one’s own schedule - despite how some seasoned guests may feel about the quality of the 3 - is key when it comes to encouraging advance purchases and even on-site resort bookings.
Oh. Can you send me that url, please? We’re making changes to the software this week, including now. Thanks!Hey @lentesta there's a bug on custom Touring Plans where the software is trying to get me to redeem LLs that I don't actually have.
I told it I have LLs for Tower at 1pm, Mania at 5:30, and Slinky at 6:30.
The software is showing those three correctly, but it's also trying to get me to redeem RnRC at 9:30 and Alien at 12:30.
I agree with you all are saying. I'm still mind blown how the majority of guests want structure and a set schedule while on vacation.While I would have made it just 1 preselection and no tiers, anecdotally I know quite a few people that love that it is 3 preselections. Gives them a framework for their day they can plan around and being able to schedule the times allows for planning midday breaks easier. Just reduces stress for them and their kids to hav more of the day structured
No system is going to make everyone happy but I am sure Disney had feedback that this is what more of their target guests want
It’s 3 ride reservations with 1 hour blocks over the course of a whole day. The vast majority of your day is still spent doing whatever you want without a schedule. I like Universal too and especially with Express Pass it’s really nice, but even then I still have some high level plan ahead of time of what I plan to do.I agree with you all are saying. I'm still mind blown how the majority of guests want structure and a set schedule while on vacation.
It's the main reason why my family opts of Universal over Disney. The ease of planning and no set schedule required.
I agree with you all are saying. I'm still mind blown how the majority of guests want structure and a set schedule while on vacation.
It's the main reason why my family opts of Universal over Disney. The ease of planning and no set schedule required.
Might not just be that this will sell more/more expensively than G+. I think they are also hoping to increase TS/Resort sales with this change.Agreed. The bottom line is Disney feels this system will sell more at WDW than Genie+ did. That’s the goal. DLR is a different animal and the pre-planning aspect would not be as popular there. I don’t think Disney is just allowing the pre-planning to make guests happy, I think they are also banking on more people buying and buying for more days because of it. With buying “day of“ people are more likely to decide on the day buy or don’t buy. I think the pre-booking is just as much about locking in sales as it is satisfying guests who don’t want to wake up at 7am on vacation to buy.
Agreed. The bottom line is Disney feels this system will sell more at WDW than Genie+ did. That’s the goal.
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