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The big one for me is I’ll know if I can get the rides I want, at the time I want, before I pay for it.What about this is better than Genie+?
The big one for me is I’ll know if I can get the rides I want, at the time I want, before I pay for it.What about this is better than Genie+?
The pre-booking and picking times vs getting next available timeWhat about this is better than Genie+?
Major downgrade from original FP for sureI think it’s an indication of how horribly many viewed Genie, this is still a major downgrade from FP and FP+ but is being viewed as a major upgrade from Genie.
But we can ask WDTC to book dining, tours, droid building etc which otherwise require a vpn.Harrassing and 'badgering' are essentially the same thing.
I think you 'may' have hit on what is triggering the difference. The resort reservations are sold by Walt Disney Travel Company, whereas LL would be sold by The Walt Disney Company (separate legal entities) which is not authorized to complete those transactions outside the US.
The tiering system says "you can't get the rides you want, period."The big one for me is I’ll know if I can get the rides I want, at the time I want, before I pay for it.
Just from the pre-planning aspect. Day of, you can shift to 7 am Genie+ strategy and modify two of your selections to Group 1.The tiering system says "you can't get the rides you want, period."
I was thinking the same thing. I'm not convinced Canada is included in the International visitors category. Regulations are different between US and Canada then other countires.Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I think Canada books through the same arm as USA, pays in USD, and can call from home for DAS unlike other international guests. Seems odd that this new system is excluded.
Maybe not every single one but if I can guarantee myself 3 good rides with low waits that’s good enough for me to spend $20, maybe $25, probably not $30… the devil will be in the details.The tiering system says "you can't get the rides you want, period."
You can?Day of, you can shift to 7 am Genie+ strategy and modify two of your selections to Group 1.
I have an AP.Surely that’s because you have to be logged in to buy it and have a valid ticket for the same day?
Unless you have an AP of course.
This makes sense from the money stand point, Disney can make more money.I’m also curious to see if Disney will raise the price as availability decreases, multipass might be $20 if you log in right at 7am when 100% of capacity is available, bumps to $30 when 50% of capacity is available, $40 when 25% is still available... that would also limit the number of users.
Maybe not every single one but if I can guarantee myself 3 good rides with low waits that’s good enough for me to spend $20, maybe $25, probably not $30… the devil will be in the details.
If we can’t get 3 “good” rides it won’t even be worth $20, at least we’ll know before we buy it though. I used Genie ounce, we got 1 ride at a time that worked for us, I felt like a sucker that got completely ripped off, at least I can save my money with this if nothing good is available.
There are no Groups/Tiers day of. They just have it for pre-planning.You can?
You see what’s available before paying so if you go to buy late and nothing good is left then don’t buyThis makes sense from the money stand point, Disney can make more money.
But now with advance selection of return times, will folks figure out the multipass will become less valuable the later you purchase it; all the good return times are gone.
And for folks who don't know any better and buy late, will pay for it and after that find out its not worth it.
When it was free, there was nothing to lose.
Touring Plans has a nice little tool that projects what the return time will be each hour and when the full inventory will sell out for each ride. Time of year matters a lot but some rides never sell out some times of year.Those quotation marks around good are doing some heavy lifting there lol! For the most part the rides that are in tier 2 are rides you would have no problem snagging with Genie, even the least educated Genie guest.
It's not a conspiracy.I’m generally not a conspiracy theorist but rolling this out just after they sunset the old DAS policy is interesting timing.
It’s definitely linked. It was suggested many places that a large percentage of the lightning lane capacity was being used by DAS leaving too little behind to sell. Disney never formally said this, but it’s easy to read between the lines.I’m generally not a conspiracy theorist but rolling this out just after they sunset the old DAS policy is interesting timing.
I’m generally not a conspiracy theorist but rolling this out just after they sunset the old DAS policy is interesting timing.
Well, in Disney's theme park business, EVERYTHING is about MAKING MONEY so the timing could be intentional.I’m generally not a conspiracy theorist but rolling this out just after they sunset the old DAS policy is interesting timing.
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