Disney Food Is Expensive and Worse Than Ever

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
I take any "best pizza" list with more than a few grains of salt.

First off, pizza is extremely regional. There are styles of pizza all over the US.

Secondly, pizza is extremely personal. People like certain things (Crisp/chewy, lots of sauce/less sauce, sweeter sauce/tangy sauce, thicker crust/thinner crust, sauce under cheese/sauce over cheese, etc) There is no "best for everyone" there is a just a "best for you"

Third, there is no way any review is taking into account all of the great pizza places. There are at least 7 pizza places within a 10 minute drive of my house that all have their fan base:

Joe's Pizza
Tuscany Villa
Wood Stack
900 Degrees
Parsippany's Best
Columbia Inn
Reservoir Tavern

I have eaten at all of them, and all of them are different, and all of them are at least good, and some are great. Some are traditional NJ pizza, some are wood fired Neapolitan type, one is an extremely thin and crisp crust. You cannot compare one to the other.
Visiting Morris County NJ I have eaten in a few you have mentioned. After eating in those pizza places to include pizza and entrees, the pizza in Central FL is garbage.
 

Smiley/OCD

Well-Known Member
Of course. I was just pushing back on @Smiley/OCD saying "lol you're from New England and New England pizza sucks so your opinion on Via Napoli is invalid," when in reality New England pizza is often very highly rated.

That said, PizzeRizzo and Pizzafari are objectively bad and anyone who likes them is wrong.
I never said NE pizza sucks…Dominos sucks, Pizza Hut sucks, etc…I just said I would never buy pizza in Disney. If I’m going to New England, I’m getting seafood, not pizza…lighten up, Francis lol
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
I never said NE pizza sucks…Dominos sucks, Pizza Hut sucks, etc…I just said I would never buy pizza in Disney. If I’m going to New England, I’m getting seafood, not pizza…lighten up, Francis lol
Tried Cape May at Yacht & Beach and it is overpriced average tasting seafood. Now the Boston Fish House in Winter Park FL is the real deal. It is run by a family from New England.
 

Big T 1963

Member
Your next trip to WDW should include a stop at the nearest Publix they make some really good sandwiches and while your there don't forget to get a some Florida Lottery scratch-offs you may win and afford the food in the parks on a future trip ...LOL Because you know "Dream do come true" Have a Magical Day!!!
 

Tony the Tigger

Well-Known Member
I am Italian from NJ so let’s settle things lol.

The biggest sacrifice I made in moving from NJ to FL is food on a daily basis. Produce isn’t as good, Italian restaurants are meh at best. Decent pizza is extremely rare. Locals think Papa John’s is “good pizza.” 😳

I don’t love most Italian stuff or pizza at WDW. I rarely go to Italian restaurants there or elsewhere.

The following are pizza toppings: mozzarella, sausage, meatballs, onions, peppers, pepperoni, mushrooms, eggplant, garlic, basil, extra cheese, spinach, olives. Maybe chicken.

Once you add pineapple or melon, it’s no longer pizza. 😉

That stuff in Chicago is actually cake.

I miss my Grandma (and her cooking.)

Even places that move down to FL from NJ/NY aren’t as good down here. (See: the water.)

Now don’t get me wrong, if I’m in the right mood (read: 2AM 🍻) I’ll take a $5 pizza from 7/11 with appropriate expectations: fill me up so I can pass out. And the CPK BBQ chicken concoction is very nice, but by my own rules, I can’t call it pizza. A hankering for pizza is a totally different hankering.

While I’m at it: it’s gravy. But on pizza, it’s usually sauce (i.e. cooked without meat.)

I did very much enjoy Palo, the Italian restaurant on the Disney Dream. I went in with low expectations, mostly ordering things without tomatoes. At the brunch where I could get anything and just not eat it if I didn’t like it, I was very pleasantly impressed with the chef’s sauces/gravies - slow cooked without cheating via salt/sugar. I went back for dinner and had a lamb ragout pasta to die for.

And yes @Smiley/OCD if Paradiso 37 were replaced by a Taco Bell and a poutine stand, it would be an upgrade.

And yes @Phonedave almost any local dive in NJ is at least decent, and probably better than a comparable place in Florida.

And yes @CaptainAmerica Connecticut will always be #3 in the tri-state area. In everything except income. 🏆🤣🤣😉
 

Smiley/OCD

Well-Known Member
I am Italian from NJ so let’s settle things lol.

The biggest sacrifice I made in moving from NJ to FL is food on a daily basis. Produce isn’t as good, Italian restaurants are meh at best. Decent pizza is extremely rare. Locals think Papa John’s is “good pizza.” 😳

I don’t love most Italian stuff or pizza at WDW. I rarely go to Italian restaurants there or elsewhere.

The following are pizza toppings: mozzarella, sausage, meatballs, onions, peppers, pepperoni, mushrooms, eggplant, garlic, basil, extra cheese, spinach, olives. Maybe chicken.

Once you add pineapple or melon, it’s no longer pizza. 😉

That stuff in Chicago is actually cake.

I miss my Grandma (and her cooking.)

Even places that move down to FL from NJ/NY aren’t as good down here. (See: the water.)

Now don’t get me wrong, if I’m in the right mood (read: 2AM 🍻) I’ll take a $5 pizza from 7/11 with appropriate expectations: fill me up so I can pass out. And the CPK BBQ chicken concoction is very nice, but by my own rules, I can’t call it pizza. A hankering for pizza is a totally different hankering.

While I’m at it: it’s gravy. But on pizza, it’s usually sauce (i.e. cooked without meat.)

I did very much enjoy Palo, the Italian restaurant on the Disney Dream. I went in with low expectations, mostly ordering things without tomatoes. At the brunch where I could get anything and just not eat it if I didn’t like it, I was very pleasantly impressed with the chef’s sauces/gravies - slow cooked without cheating via salt/sugar. I went back for dinner and had a lamb ragout pasta to die for.

And yes @Smiley/OCD if Paradiso 37 were replaced by a Taco Bell and a poutine stand, it would be an upgrade.

And yes @Phonedave almost any local dive in NJ is at least decent, and probably better than a comparable place in Florida.

And yes @CaptainAmerica Connecticut will always be #3 in the tri-state area. In everything except income. 🏆🤣🤣😉
YES!! (And I’m not Italian!), there’s nothing like a fist sized Jersey tomato…don’t forget the bagels and breads, too!
IF I have to eat “mass produced”chain pizza, believe it or not, Costco’s snack bar pizza isn’t half bad…better than Dominos, etc.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
YES!! (And I’m not Italian!), there’s nothing like a fist sized Jersey tomato…don’t forget the bagels and breads, too!
IF I have to eat “mass produced”chain pizza, believe it or not, Costco’s snack bar pizza isn’t half bad…better than Dominos, etc.
The best pizza there is... Frank Pepe's fresh tomato pie. Only available in the summertime when local tomatoes are fresh. No sauce, fresh tomatoes marinated in olive oil with big pieces of garlic. Just enough fresh basil. Mozzarella and pecorino romano cheeses.

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Phonedave

Well-Known Member
While I’m at it: it’s gravy. But on pizza, it’s usually sauce (i.e. cooked without meat.)

A large amount of NY / NJ style pizza sauce is not cooked at all. At least not in the restaurant. It is cooked when the tomatoes are canned, but that is about it. Tomato puree from a #10 can, garlic, basic, olive oil, salt. Let it sit to marry flavors and then it cooks enough when it is on the pizza

As for gravy - https://bestofnj.com/features/nj-vocabulary-new-jersey-accent/

Here are some other New Jersey vocabulary words you likely won’t hear anywhere else:

The article also left Cavatelli - Gava-teil off the list

Pasta Fagioli = Pasta Fuh-zool
Capicola = Gabagool
Mozzarella = Mutz-a-dell
Ricotta = Ree-gout
Proscuitto = Pro-shoot
Manicotti = Man-uh-gut
Calzone (cal-TSO-nay) = Cal-zone

The article also left Cavatelli - Gava-teil off the list

And no, I am not the least bit Italian - NJ or otherwise.
 

the_rich

Well-Known Member
I am Italian from NJ so let’s settle things lol.

The biggest sacrifice I made in moving from NJ to FL is food on a daily basis. Produce isn’t as good, Italian restaurants are meh at best. Decent pizza is extremely rare. Locals think Papa John’s is “good pizza.” 😳

I don’t love most Italian stuff or pizza at WDW. I rarely go to Italian restaurants there or elsewhere.

The following are pizza toppings: mozzarella, sausage, meatballs, onions, peppers, pepperoni, mushrooms, eggplant, garlic, basil, extra cheese, spinach, olives. Maybe chicken.

Once you add pineapple or melon, it’s no longer pizza. 😉

That stuff in Chicago is actually cake.

I miss my Grandma (and her cooking.)

Even places that move down to FL from NJ/NY aren’t as good down here. (See: the water.)

Now don’t get me wrong, if I’m in the right mood (read: 2AM 🍻) I’ll take a $5 pizza from 7/11 with appropriate expectations: fill me up so I can pass out. And the CPK BBQ chicken concoction is very nice, but by my own rules, I can’t call it pizza. A hankering for pizza is a totally different hankering.

While I’m at it: it’s gravy. But on pizza, it’s usually sauce (i.e. cooked without meat.)

I did very much enjoy Palo, the Italian restaurant on the Disney Dream. I went in with low expectations, mostly ordering things without tomatoes. At the brunch where I could get anything and just not eat it if I didn’t like it, I was very pleasantly impressed with the chef’s sauces/gravies - slow cooked without cheating via salt/sugar. I went back for dinner and had a lamb ragout pasta to die for.

And yes @Smiley/OCD if Paradiso 37 were replaced by a Taco Bell and a poutine stand, it would be an upgrade.

And yes @Phonedave almost any local dive in NJ is at least decent, and probably better than a comparable place in Florida.

And yes @CaptainAmerica Connecticut will always be #3 in the tri-state area. In everything except income. 🏆🤣🤣😉
If u want pizza that was able to make the move from Brooklyn to Florida and still be fantastic then u need to try lucali in Miami. Best pizza I've ever had and it's only slightly better in ny. From what I understand they ship their water in from ny.
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
I never said NE pizza sucks…Dominos sucks, Pizza Hut sucks, etc…I just said I would never buy pizza in Disney. If I’m going to New England, I’m getting seafood, not pizza…lighten up, Francis lol
One thing about brick oven pizza is when I worked in a hotel years ago on a late night shift the brick oven was always on 24/7 so we brought some veggies steaks and chicken from home and used the brick oven on our lunch break and had great meals.
 

networkpro

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
The best pizza there is... Frank Pepe's fresh tomato pie. Only available in the summertime when local tomatoes are fresh. No sauce, fresh tomatoes marinated in olive oil with big pieces of garlic. Just enough fresh basil. Mozzarella and pecorino romano cheeses.

The typical grocery store or commercial food service tomatoes are grown for longevity and durability. There is a whole world of fresh tomatoes out there that actually have flavor.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I take any "best pizza" list with more than a few grains of salt.

First off, pizza is extremely regional. There are styles of pizza all over the US.

Secondly, pizza is extremely personal. People like certain things (Crisp/chewy, lots of sauce/less sauce, sweeter sauce/tangy sauce, thicker crust/thinner crust, sauce under cheese/sauce over cheese, etc) There is no "best for everyone" there is a just a "best for you"

Third, there is no way any review is taking into account all of the great pizza places. There are at least 7 pizza places within a 10 minute drive of my house that all have their fan base:

Joe's Pizza
Tuscany Villa
Wood Stack
900 Degrees
Parsippany's Best
Columbia Inn
Reservoir Tavern

I have eaten at all of them, and all of them are different, and all of them are at least good, and some are great. Some are traditional NJ pizza, some are wood fired Neapolitan type, one is an extremely thin and crisp crust. You cannot compare one to the other.
…I think I can see you house from my office…if I ever went there 😎
 

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