News 'Disney Enchantment' coming to Magic Kingdom October 1 2021

jrhwdw

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I appreciate Disney live-streaming the two shows because they have not live-streamed anything in a long time (pre-pandemic I think) so this kind of adds a sense of normality.

Outside of that, I will always enjoy live-streamers and vloggers coverage of the events because it gives me more of a feel for the event. Especially the live streams, they make me feel like I'm there with them which is great.
Exactly! Not everyone can go to Orlando/have a AP so what's wrong with Bloggers/Streamers brining joy to people Exactly???
 

Splashin' Ryan

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Im very interested to see what these projections end up looking like, so far it looks very Mary Blair (which I love) but almost no real-life scenes or IP characters even though they announced they would be in the show. The castle view from the videos looks like a bunch of blocks of color which would deviate pretty heavily from HEA.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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It’s interesting how little the current company / management wants to focus on nostalgia. To me, that’s what Disney is selling. How far I’ll go... Into the Unknown... those are good songs but that’s not what I think of when I think of “Walt Disney World” I think about grim grinning ghosts, it’s a small world, Pirates life for me, etc.

I’ll have the same thoughts about Harmonious I’m sure.
 

UNCgolf

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It’s interesting how little the current company / management wants to focus on nostalgia. To me, that’s what Disney is selling. How far I’ll go... Into the Unknown... those are good songs but that’s not what I think of when I think of “Walt Disney World” I think about grim grinning ghosts, it’s a small world, Pirates life for me, etc.

I’ll have the same thoughts about Harmonious I’m sure.

While I personally agree, I also understand it from a business standpoint. I think they're trying to appeal to kids who have grown up with those movies as their favorites and hopefully turning them into lifelong fans, especially since many of those IPs aren't represented elsewhere in the parks (Frozen excluded).
 

Vinnie Mac

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There are hundreds of professional-grade videos of the fireworks in 4k resolution and incredible audio on YouTube that you can watch at any time. Therefore, it amazes me as to why there are so many people who insist on taking out their iPhone 3G and recording the show in low quality shaky video. If you want to watch it later, just look it up on YouTube. Enjoy it in person with your family and friends with the best camera on planet Earth (your own two eyes).

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(not directed at anyone in particular, just a general rant while we're on the topic)
Actually, I doubt anyone on this planet uses an iPhone 3 anymore. You do realize iPhones are on their 13th edition, right?

And these days, smartphones can actually record at 4k with 60fps. Some phone cameras are at the same level as professional cameras. ResortTV1 streams at great quality and they stream with a smartphone. I really don't get what point you're trying to make. I'm not even sure you know what you're complaining about.
 

Vinnie Mac

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Exactly! Not everyone can go to Orlando/have a AP so what's wrong with Bloggers/Streamers brining joy to people Exactly???
Seriously.

Some people are talking as if these vloggers and streamers are bothering other people (like harming or scaring others like some influencers do) but really these people are incredibly nice and don't bother anyone. If anything, it's the other people who bother them more. I can recount two or three times when I've seen Josh from ResortTV1 get harassed by someone on a stream and ThatCrazyDisneyLady even got physically assaulted on a stream at the last showing of Illuminations.

It's just crazy to me how these people bring joy to others and get nothing but hate from people who don't even understand what they're complaining about.
 

Brian

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Actually, I doubt anyone on this planet uses an iPhone 3 anymore. You do realize iPhones are on their 13th edition, right?

And these days, smartphones can actually record at 4k with 60fps. Some phone cameras are at the same level as professional cameras. ResortTV1 streams at great quality and they stream with a smartphone. I really don't get what point you're trying to make. I'm not even sure you know what you're complaining about.
Next time, I'll be sure to put a disclaimer that I am speaking in jest to ensure I don't confuse you. In this case, I was using a facetious example to illustrate my opinion that the quality of most people's shaky phone videos pales in comparison to those taken on and/or with professional equipment, like the videos I referenced. The iPhone 3G is obviously quite obsolete.

Since you seem like someone who likes specifics, allow me to point out that the iPhone is not on its 13th edition, as you claim. The iPhone 13 came out yesterday, yes, but there have been far more than 13 editions since the original, when taking into account deviations such as "S", "SE", and "C" versions, as well as Mini, Max, and Pro versions. I'm not even sure you know what you're talking about.

There is no comparison between the videos taken on and with pro equipment, and the phone video taken on the average guest's phone. Consider how the explosions of the fireworks and cheers from the crowds drown out the soundtrack, and the phone can't be held still due to arm fatigue when the video is shot on someone's phone. Pro equipment can help stabilize the shot and reduce ambient noise, helping to create a superior video to anything the average guest with their phone held high can. That was the point I was making.
 
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mikejs78

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Next time, I'll be sure to put a disclaimer that I am speaking in jest to ensure I don't confuse you. In this case, I was using a facetious example to illustrate my opinion that the quality of most people's shaky phone videos pales in comparison to those taken on and/or with professional equipment, like the videos I referenced. The iPhone 3G is obviously quite obsolete.

Since you seem like someone who likes specifics, allow me to point out that the iPhone is not on its 13th edition, as you claim. The iPhone 13 came out yesterday, yes, but there have been far more than 13 editions since the original, when taking into account deviations such as "S", "SE", and "C" versions, as well as Mini and Max versions. I'm not even sure you know what you're talking about.

There is no comparison between the videos taken with pro equipment, and the phone video taken on the average guest's phone. Consider how the explosions of the fireworks and cheers from the crowds drown out the soundtrack, and the phone can't be held still due to arm fatigue when the video is shot on someone's phone. Pro equipment can help stabilize the shot and reduce ambient noise, helping to create a superior video to anything the average guest with their phone held high can. That was the point I was making.
Obviously pro equipment is superior, but phone tech has improved to the point where it does produce professional-seeming videos, and the things you state as problems aren't really problems.

For example, most good vloggers use gimbals. That, along with OIS technology, produces a pretty smooth video and you'd never really notice that it came from a phone.

Same with audio. With noise cancellation along with good editing software, you can get most of the background noise minimized and focus on the show audio. Is it perfect, professional quality? No. But it's pretty damn good.
 

Brian

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Obviously pro equipment is superior, but phone tech has improved to the point where it does produce professional-seeming videos, and the things you state as problems aren't really problems.

For example, most good vloggers use gimbals. That, along with OIS technology, produces a pretty smooth video and you'd never really notice that it came from a phone.

Same with audio. With noise cancellation along with good editing software, you can get most of the background noise minimized and focus on the show audio. Is it perfect, professional quality? No. But it's pretty damn good.
Phone tech has definitely come a long way, and tools like gimbals are definitely very useful.

My biggest frustration with the average guest feeling compelled to whip out their phone to record it is that they are missing out on what can be such a wonderful memory with their family and friends.

One of my last memories I have with my Grandfather is enjoying Fantasy in the Sky with him and the rest of my family on Main Street. Nowadays, folks miss out on that because they are too busy fussing with their phones. I saw it far too many times when I worked operations at MK... I'll never forget the one girl who spent most of Wishes having a mental breakdown because there wasn't a strong enough cell signal to "Facebook Live" the show.

There was a time where you'd have to get a recording of the fireworks if you ever wanted to watch them after that vacation. That isn't the case anymore, thanks to the likes of YouTube.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Phone tech has definitely come a long way.

My biggest frustration with the average guest feeling compelled to whip out their phone to record it is that they are missing out on what can be such a wonderful memory with their family and friends.

One of my last memories I have with my Grandfather is enjoying Fantasy in the Sky with him and the rest of my family on Main Street. Nowadays, folks miss out on that because they are too busy fussing with their phones. I saw it far too many times when I worked operations at MK... I'll never forget the one girl who spent most of Wishes having a mental breakdown because there wasn't a strong enough cell signal to "Facebook Live" the show.

There was a time where you'd have to get a recording of the fireworks if you ever wanted to watch them after that vacation. That isn't the case anymore, thanks to the likes of YouTube.
I went through a phase, prior to iphones, where I video taped the fireworks shows pretty regularly. Citizens of Hollywood and Comedy warehouse too. I still enjoyed those vacations as much as later on.

Everyone enjoys Disney in their own way. I don’t eat in many sit down restaurants anymore, I like taking the monorail, boat, or skyliner to a resort and having counter service when it’s pretty quiet at the resorts and pretty busy in the parks. Some would think that’s wasting my time at Disney, I love it.
 

Vinnie Mac

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Next time, I'll be sure to put a disclaimer that I am speaking in jest to ensure I don't confuse you. In this case, I was using a facetious example to illustrate my opinion that the quality of most people's shaky phone videos pales in comparison to those taken on and/or with professional equipment, like the videos I referenced. The iPhone 3G is obviously quite obsolete.

Since you seem like someone who likes specifics, allow me to point out that the iPhone is not on its 13th edition, as you claim. The iPhone 13 came out yesterday, yes, but there have been far more than 13 editions since the original, when taking into account deviations such as "S", "SE", and "C" versions, as well as Mini, Max, and Pro versions. I'm not even sure you know what you're talking about.

There is no comparison between the videos taken on and with pro equipment, and the phone video taken on the average guest's phone. Consider how the explosions of the fireworks and cheers from the crowds drown out the soundtrack, and the phone can't be held still due to arm fatigue when the video is shot on someone's phone. Pro equipment can help stabilize the shot and reduce ambient noise, helping to create a superior video to anything the average guest with their phone held high can. That was the point I was making.
It is on its 13th edition no matter which way you're trying to put it. No one was taking into account these "deviations" because these "deviations" are still branded under their primary edition. No amount of X's or SE's will change the phone from what it actually is.

Find something else to argue me on because clearly you have no idea where you're going with that bit.

Besides, my point still stands. These days, you do not need a professional camera to take high quality videos. Sure, sound and stabilization is something pro-equipment still excels at but even then, phones are progressively getting better at those two things as well.
 

Brian

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I think this sums up all my thoughts about this.
It would've been nice for you to just say that, instead of nitpicking and being condescending. I'll remind you that this is a discussion board, and civility and respect for the opinions of others is not a lost art. In the interest of civility, I'm not going to continue arguing about iPhones, or try to justify having an opinion different from yours.

And for the record, I actually agree with TrainChasers' point too.
 
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Sir_Cliff

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I generally have a pretty low tolerance for this stuff, but must admit I find "You are the magic!" a bit corny/cringey even as the theme for a Disney fireworks show. I slightly winced when that behind the scenes video ended with a burst of that line. Perhaps I just need to accept that I am the magic ☺️

Interested to see how this show works out anyway. If nothing else, the fireworks look good from the tests.
 
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UNCgolf

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It is on its 13th edition no matter which way you're trying to put it. No one was taking into account these "deviations" because these "deviations" are still branded under their primary edition. No amount of X's or SE's will change the phone from what it actually is.

Not that it really matters, but if you were counting by numbers I think it would be the 12th edition because there was no iPhone 9. If you were counting yearly I think it's the 14th or 15th?
 

gerarar

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I generally have a pretty low tolerance for this stuff, but must admit I find "You are the magic!" a bit corny/cringey even as the theme for a Disney fireworks show. I slightly winced when that behind the scenes video ended with a burst of that line. Perhaps I just need to accept that I am the magic ☺️

Interested to see how this show works out anyway. If nothing else, the fireworks look good from the tests.
Make a wish, and do as dreamers do!

Reach out and find your Happily Ever After!

and now:
You are the Magic!

The theme is a bit of a departure from previous shows where it’s an action for us viewers to do something.
 

mikejs78

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Make a wish, and do as dreamers do!

Reach out and find your Happily Ever After!

and now:
You are the Magic!

The theme is a bit of a departure from previous shows where it’s an action for us viewers to do something.
From the small preview clips on Disney Parks YouTube, it seems like the theme is that the magic is inside you, you just have to look for it. In that sense, it seems similar to the above, although maybe not quite as obvious. But will have to wait to see the whole show before making a judgement.
 

wtyy21

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From the small preview clips on Disney Parks YouTube, it seems like the theme is that the magic is inside you, you just have to look for it. In that sense, it seems similar to the above, although maybe not quite as obvious. But will have to wait to see the whole show before making a judgement.
As long as the nighttime spectacular is not about parks/resort/attractions like Disneyland's Remember Dreams Come True or Epcot Forever.
 

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