News 'Disney Enchantment' coming to Magic Kingdom October 1 2021

[iMax]

Some good but still somewhat incomplete news: HEA is basically a go to return at some point next year. I don't know when or with what (if any) modifications. But they heard us "loud and clear." Apparently, they were prepared for this scenario all along.

Not sure how long it will run for but there are no plans to invest significant money into yet another nighttime spectacular at WDW this soon.

Edit: I should clarify that the source didn't specifically mention HEA as the show that will replace it. But simply that DE did not meet the expectations and that they were not going to invest significant money. Just reading between the lines here.

If true, HEA will most likely stay till WDW’s 60th, HEA is basically the new RDCT, running for 9 years straight then returning for a short period in 2017.

But, if they want the show to not go stale, update it to have Main Street projections.

 

[Disney Glimpses]

If true, HEA will most likely stay till WDW’s 60th, HEA is basically the new RDCT, running for 9 years straight then returning for a short period in 2017.

But, if they want the show to not go stale, update it to have Main Street projections.

If this is the direction they are leaning (retiring DE after the 50th), it would mean they would almost certainly have started work on a new show. HEA would likely run for the 12 months of 100 Years of Wonder and then retire forever.

If HEA does return, it will be a short lived return.

 

[mikejs78]

Go the the Distance could be replaced with a new rendition of Wish Upon a Star that is similar to the ending of Wishes. Other tracks like How Far I'll Go can also be replaced easily.

Replacing Go the distance in HEA would be like replacing Jimminy Cricket in Wishes. They can't do it - it's a big climactic moment in the show right before the finale.

 

[wdwfan22]

If this is the direction they are leaning (retiring DE after the 50th), it would mean they would almost certainly have started work on a new show. HEA would likely run for the 12 months of 100 Years of Wonder and then retire forever.

If HEA does return, it will be a short lived return.

With the way management is in Florida, Enchantment is staying unless they see a drop in attendance at night and feel its because of the fireworks show.

 

[Disney Glimpses]

With the way management is in Florida, Enchantment is staying unless they see a drop in attendance at night and feel its because of the fireworks show.

Eh, have to disagree here. It's not entirely that simple. For example, with Genie+, despite it selling extremely well, they are still working hard to shape changes for 2023 due to poor GSAT scores. They care about the feelings that guests walk away with, even if they are selling those experiences at a high rate.

When people are researching their vacations and planning out their itinerary's, Disney does not like the negative after negative after negative review of their nighttime show at their most famed theme park and constantly being compared to the former show. Even if guests still show up.

That doesn't mean they won't keep it around for 2-3 years but they won't let it sit longer than reasonably necessary.

 

[brb1006]

In light of negative reception of Enchantment and how projections and fireworks had been executed at the U.S. Disney Parks in recent years. I honestly wish they created a special anniversary show that was actually relevant to WDW's 50th Anniversary besides a typical fireworks mixed with fireworks. Which brings to mind the "Celebrate! Tokyo Disneyland".

A few years back, Tokyo Disneyland celebrated their 35th Anniversary with a 20 minute projection show called "Celebrate! Tokyo Disneyland"(highly underappreciated in my opinion) hosted on Cinderella Castle. Unlike World of Color Celebrate, this show was entirely focused on Tokyo Disneyland with sections themed to certain lands and rides found across the park. Not to mention a live Mickey Mouse finding a way to turn into his cartoon self for a majority of the show. The show only saved the fireworks for the finale and the Toontown section (to enhance the moment of Mickey as a conductor) instead of trying to do both. It's one of the best executions of a projection show.


I wish WDW's 50th Anniversary followed a similar approach, since that show proved that projections can be used decently. As long as it's not following the Enchantment and HEA approach where both shows can't decide if guests should focus on the fireworks or projections (usually resorting to both).

 

[wdwfan22]

Eh, have to disagree here. It's not entirely that simple. For example, with Genie+, despite it selling extremely well, they are still working hard to shape changes for 2023 due to poor GSAT scores. They care about the feelings that guests walk away with, even if they are selling those experiences at a high rate.

When people are researching their vacations and planning out their itinerary's, Disney does not like the negative after negative after negative review of their nighttime show at their most famed them park and constantly being compared to the former show. Even if guests still show up.

Everything I’ve seen and heard show satisfaction scores for Enchantment are good and most guests enjoy the show. Harmonious has had more issues with scoring and they have no desire to change that.

 

[Disney Glimpses]

Everything I’ve seen and heard show satisfaction scores for Enchantment are good and most guests enjoy the show. Harmonious has had more issues with scoring and they have no desire to change that.

Not sure where you have heard this but Harm is absolutely scoring better than Enchantment. And while Enchantment doesn't have issues in the new guest department, it has serious issues with returning guests. As I have stated many times, more than 80% of guests who have seen both HEA and DE prefer HEA. From what I understand, that ratio is closer to 50/50 with Harm.

 

[mikejs78]

Everything I’ve seen and heard show satisfaction scores for Enchantment are good and most guests enjoy the show. Harmonious has had more issues with scoring and they have no desire to change that.

I've heard from multiple sources that Harmonious has comparable GSATs to other Epcot shows while DE scores poorly.

 

[TTA94]

Two shows are being presented to help with the park exit. It’s basically an operations test

Well they used to have a parade to help with this . Guess their thinking two firework shows are better and cheaper?

 

[DCBaker]

 

[iMax]

I’m in a tiny minority that actually prefers Enchantment over HEA..whoops

 

[gerarar]

I’m in a tiny minority that actually prefers Enchantment over HEA..whoops

How dare you! Go change your profile pic smh

 

[iMax]

How dare you! Go change your profile pic smh

Tbh I actually should cause that one is wayyyy too old.

EDIT: There we go. With the superior fireworks show.

 

[gerarar]

Tbh I actually should cause that one is wayyyy too old.

EDIT: There we go. With the superior fireworks show.

Ew, what a downgrade of a profile pic (imo).

Glad my definition of superior is correct.

 

[Disney Glimpses]

Yeah, for those who question how unpopular Enchantment is compared to Happily Ever After: I urge you to read the replies to Jordan's tweet.

And yes, the internal data is just as bad.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I’m in a tiny minority that actually prefers Enchantment over HEA..whoops

The exception that proves the rule

 

[Vinnie Mac]

A bunch of small Magic Kingdom attraction upgrades/enhancements, much better pyro for Harm, After Hours events, nighttime parade (supposedly MSEP was original slated for MK as it last appeared at DL), partial perim. fireworks for HEA. Nothing crazy but enough that it would at least feel like a celebration lol

I noticed you said much better pyro for Harm. Was it the same set up as the pyro we saw in the original testing for Harmonious?

 

[MaryJaneP]

With the way management is in Florida, Enchantment is staying unless they see a drop in attendance at night and feel its because of the fireworks show.

A drop in park attendance would appear to be problematic. However, an earlier exit by crowds not staying to watch a sub-optimal fireworks show may be exactly the objective in lower cost factors by dismissing CM's earlier and savings on what appears to be a fireworks lite show, among other savings.

 

[mikejs78]

A drop in park attendance would appear to be problematic. However, an earlier exit by crowds not staying to watch a sub-optimal fireworks show may be exactly the objective in lower cost factors by dismissing CM's earlier and savings on what appears to be a fireworks lite show, among other savings.

That's silly. They would lose way too much on food/merch sales. They want people in the park at night. Otherwise they wouldn't do fireworks at all.