Disney confirms 'Frozen' makeover coming to Epcot's Norway Pavilion

[Lee]

My hunch is they will remove the reversing portion of the ride. That and 2 load platforms would greatly increase throughput.

Neither are happening. That's been well established.

 

[Pirate665]

Right, but I think 1 minute is the goal average. And from sitting in M&G lines, that seems about right. I highly doubt the 100 guest/room/hour being thrown around here is accurate.

The average M&G expected in WDE is 3 minutes. Make it personal, don't interrupt the guest, and keep it memorable. We encouraged the characters to keep the line moving, but not at the cost of experience.

My McDonald's joke not withstanding, for every hug-sign-bye there's also little girl scolds Gaston. You never know when these moments will come so that's why 15 minute cycles are the average for characters. 20-25 sometimes on high flows, but certainly never more than 30 on set. Over that time and the charcter is too tired and starts making mistakes in the performance.

Set time is what controls it really. Idealy, you'd have more than one room for it. This way, one set rests while another is flowing guests.

 

[danlb_2000]

My hunch is they will remove the reversing portion of the ride. That and 2 load platforms would greatly increase throughput.

I am afraid Imagination and Energy will stay as is until something new is added besides a Soarin expansion. WoL 2.0 makes more sense everyday.

To remove the reverse portion they would have to change the direction switches into curves and there doesn't really look like much room to do that.

 

[Mike S]

To remove the reverse portion they would have to change the direction switches into curves and there doesn't really look like much room to do that.

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Psh, you and your "facts"

 

[jt04]

Neither are happening. That's been well established.

So rumored 3 hour waits may be optimistic then? Well at least the 360 theaters will see a revival due to overflow.

 

[jt04]

To remove the reverse portion they would have to change the direction switches into curves and there doesn't really look like much room to do that.

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Hmmm, doesn't seem as if would have been impossible either with enough funds. Will be very interested to see how this works out.

 

[danlb_2000]

Hmmm, doesn't seem as if would have been impossible either with enough funds. Will be very interested to see how this works out.

With enough funds they could have gutted the whole inside and started from scratch.

 

[PhotoDave219]

To remove the reverse portion they would have to change the direction switches into curves and there doesn't really look like much room to do that.

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Did someone really suggest they'd take out the reversing section?

 

[danlb_2000]

Did someone really suggest they'd take out the reversing section?

Yes. I am guessing it's someone you have on ignore. It's actually probably someone everyone has on ignore except me.

 

[Mike S]

Yes. I am guessing it's someone you have on ignore. It's actually probably someone everyone has on ignore except me.

And me. My ignore list is empty.

 

[Wikkler]

Ohhhh...wait... For that you need to head to Tokyo area or Amsterdam....

Amsterdam...?

For the right price I can make that happen...

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[mahnamahna101]

I'm a little confused at the math on the M&G. I assume the average group has four guests. And that M&Gs average one group per minute. With three rooms, that's 12 guests/minute or 720/hour. Still low, but not 300 like some mention here. With FEA, the pavilion can process 1600 guests per hour. Not awful, at least after the first couple years. For 2016 and 2017, we all have brains here. Just like 7DMT, Fastpass it once or twice for your trip and move on elsewhere. The intense crowds for this ride should have little impact on folks here. Let the crazies who will wait in a 3-hour line enjoy the finer details of Wandering Oaken's.

Because most spend 2-3 minutes with the characters. 1 minute would feel rushed and impersonal, which as TDO would say, 'is bad show'.

An actual Frozen ride with 2,000-2,500/hr plus a M&G with 500-700/hr next to Maelstrom, while keeping Maelstrom intact would have been the smart thing to do.

 

[WondersOfLife]

I'm obviously way behind here... But what has been determined/predicted for the little movie theatre at the end of the ride? More queue line or the Frozen short?

 

[danlb_2000]

I'm obviously way behind here... But what has been determined/predicted for the little movie theatre at the end of the ride? More queue line or the Frozen short?

The theater is gone and will be replaced by new load/unload and queue.

 

[jt04]

Yes. I am guessing it's someone you have on ignore. It's actually probably someone everyone has on ignore except me.

That's what you think.

 

[jt04]

Did someone really suggest they'd take out the reversing section?

Yes, would improve capacity greatly. If that is not the plan they will someday question the decision. And with the same element at EE it kinda lost the coolness factor anyway.

IMO.

 

[Cesar R M]

To remove the reverse portion they would have to change the direction switches into curves and there doesn't really look like much room to do that.

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I'm surprised they didnt even try to expand in to the back area of the M&G building.

 

[marni1971]

My hunch is they will remove the reversing portion of the ride.

They are not.

 

[jt04]

They are not.

Pity then. Seems like a lost opportunity.

 

[Mike S]

Pity then. Seems like a lost opportunity.

Choosing to put the ride in that space in the first place is a lost opportunity.