Disney confirms 'Frozen' makeover coming to Epcot's Norway Pavilion

Timekeeper

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Cosmic Commando

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That aurora borealis restaurant concept for Tokyo sounds amazing... I wonder if they can make that work in Akershus somehow? Make that the "hook"for that restaurant (or a Frozen-only meal more likely), and move the princess meal somewhere else.
 

NeXuS1000

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Random question/thought here: a lot of people have mentioned how small Maelstrom was, expressing concerns on the length of the Frozen ride and the capacity of the building to contain the queue sizes, but I'm wondering why everyone seems to rule out the possibility of a showbuilding expansion. Maybe I've missed some insider information here, but why do we assume that the showbuilding won't be expanded?

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While I know the area between Mexico and Norway is theoretically reserved for a new pavillion, given Disney's thirst to add pavillions to Epcot over the past 30 years, I don't see why they would restrain themselves from utilizing the space I marked above...

The buildings in the spot look like they can easily be relocated, and this would effectively double the size of the showbuilding (if not a bit more!), providing room for both a lengthy queue and a more substantial ride.

I know this really depends on the amount of dough Disney is willing to spend on building this attraction, but I don't see how they could be so blind to the obvious problematic queue situation if the current Maelstrom layout and real estate is used.
 

NeXuS1000

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in short the money available (i believe it was quoted as 75 million?) is not enough to expand by a large amount...

How "confirmed" is that amount? Has that just been rumblings, or verified by one of the more trusted sources?

If so, yeah, 75 million is not a whole lot, but does it really rule out a showbuilding expansion? Since the area I marked above is covered by trees, it involve absolutely 0 facade work.
 

lazyboy97o

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Random question/thought here: a lot of people have mentioned how small Maelstrom was, expressing concerns on the length of the Frozen ride and the capacity of the building to contain the queue sizes, but I'm wondering why everyone seems to rule out the possibility of a showbuilding expansion. Maybe I've missed some insider information here, but why do we assume that the showbuilding won't be expanded?

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While I know the area between Mexico and Norway is theoretically reserved for a new pavillion, given Disney's thirst to add pavillions to Epcot over the past 30 years, I don't see why they would restrain themselves from utilizing the space I marked above...

The buildings in the spot look like they can easily be relocated, and this would effectively double the size of the showbuilding (if not a bit more!), providing room for both a lengthy queue and a more substantial ride.

I know this really depends on the amount of dough Disney is willing to spend on building this attraction, but I don't see how they could be so blind to the obvious problematic queue situation if the current Maelstrom layout and real estate is used.
Time is why expansion has been ruled out.
 

danlb_2000

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Time is why expansion has been ruled out.

I would agree with this. The permit for the contractor that would do that work has no expiration date, so it expires by default on 9/16/2015. This means to me that the work will be done well before that date which doesn't leave much time for new construction. It has been reported that the construction fences backstage go around the small grassy area in the space between the two pavillions, but this is likely just a staging area.
 

NeXuS1000

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But no specific timeline has been set for the attraction opening, right? I understand your permit analysis @danlb_2000, but how certain would you say that no expiration date (thus defaulting to that date) makes you feel that you expansion will take place?

And again, any word on this from trusted insiders?
 

danlb_2000

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But no specific timeline has been set for the attraction opening, right? I understand your permit analysis @danlb_2000, but how certain would you say that no expiration date (thus defaulting to that date) makes you feel that you expansion will take place?

And again, any word on this from trusted insiders?

It can't be ruled out, but based on the pace Disney tends to build at I don't see that permit allowing enough time to do new construction. Compare this permit to the one for the new track for Toy Story which is the same contractor, but expires 2 years after filing.
 

lazyboy97o

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I would agree with this. The permit for the contractor that would do that work has no expiration date, so it expires by default on 9/16/2015. This means to me that the work will be done well before that date which doesn't leave much time for new construction. It has been reported that the construction fences backstage go around the small grassy area in the space between the two pavillions, but this is likely just a staging area.
It also would have taken some time to design an expansion of the show building.
 

aladdin2007

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I would agree with all of the above regarding timelines and budgets. While my sources are required to remain 'frozen/mum' if you will about the frozen project, I think if it were something that grand of an expansion etc it would have been known by now, rumblings of, or hinted at.
 

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