Disney Bus Transportation: Clever Devices Intelligent Transportation System (ITS)

[WeekendGM]

It’s been 3s for 20 years...since before the troubles started

They can do flux capacity...but not the standard. It’s also not a good idea.

The normal goal most of the last decade or so before automation was a 4-3-2 (Resort-Express-Epcot) operation. Epcot very rarely would have three trains and the resort line almost always needs four for the demand (DVC expansions).

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The normal goal most of the last decade or so before automation was a 4-3-2 (Resort-Express-Epcot) operation. Epcot very rarely would have three trains and the resort line almost always needs four for the demand (DVC expansions).

Makes sense...

Net result was 3 in the roundhouse

4 on one line results in a good deal of stop time.

 

[peter11435]

It’s been 3s for 20 years...since before the troubles started

They can do flux capacity...but not the standard. It’s also not a good idea.

It really depends. Many days they stick with just two on Epcot. 4 on resort or express happens more than you thinks

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It really depends. Many days they stick with just two on Epcot. 4 on resort or express happens more than you thinks

I can see it. Such that things are.

When do the footers go in for that ski lift?

 

[UNCgolf]

Yeah, on a trip last year we saw a bus for Hollywood Studios waiting directly behind another bus for Hollywood Studios at our resort bus stop. Unfortunately, we weren't headed to Hollywood Studios.

Indeed.

This would make sense if there were a ton of people waiting on a bus to Hollywood Studios and so they dispatched an extra bus to deal with the backlog, but at least in my case, none of the three were even close to being full.

 

[UNCgolf]

Also, why is WDW still using buses?

What would they use instead?

 

[_caleb]

What would they use instead?

Monorail, PeopleMover, self-driving pods, anything more “magical” than city busses. I understand the flexibility of a bus system, and the fact that these are outside the park transportation and not “attractions,” but I always prefer when Disney thinks outside the box (and into the future) a bit.

 

[UNCgolf]

Monorail, PeopleMover, self-driving pods, anything more “magical” than city busses. I understand the flexibility of a bus system, and the fact that these are outside the park transportation and not “attractions,” but I always prefer when Disney thinks outside the box (and into the future) a bit.

Oh I'd love if everything was connected by some combination of monorails and people movers. That would be incredible.

There's absolutely no chance of that happening, though -- the costs would be astronomical. Buses are probably the only feasible driving solution to efficiently move the number of people they need to move.

 

[Touchdown]

I still think you could create a series of hubs (the parks) with separate spokes. I’m going to use the monorail for this, but you could convert this to light rail too

Imagine if the express monorail was connected to the Epcot Line, and then the line was continued to DHS and then Animal Kingdom. This line would be called “The Theme Park Express Line” and at Epcot and DHS would have stops going in both directions so that it could serve as the main line to not only park hop but also transfer to other lines. Then each park would have local loops to nearby resorts like MK has (which would be extended to WL, and FW.)

That’s the dream, but that’s all it is...

 

[JoeCamel]

I still think you could create a series of hubs (the parks) with separate spokes. I’m going to use the monorail for this, but you could convert this to light rail too

Imagine if the express monorail was connected to the Epcot Line, and then the line was continued to DHS and then Animal Kingdom. This line would be called “The Theme Park Express Line” and at Epcot and DHS would have stops going in both directions so that it could serve as the main line to not only park hop but also transfer to other lines. Then each park would have local loops to nearby resorts like MK has (which would be extended to WL, and FW.)

That’s the dream, but that’s all it is...

Peter is that you?

 

[DVCakaCarlF]

Oh right...Brian fart.

OLC pays for theirs...key difference.

Nothing about the wdw monorails history or current state would lead you to believe they want them longterm

So what’s the plan when they eventually crap out? More skyliner?! Lol

 

[_caleb]

Oh I'd love if everything was connected by some combination of monorails and people movers. That would be incredible.

There's absolutely no chance of that happening, though -- the costs would be astronomical. Buses are probably the only feasible driving solution to efficiently move the number of people they need to move.

I know-too expensive. We were talking about self-driving open-plan buses here a while back. That’d be nice.

The bus system in Raleigh, NC has a realtime bus location tracker. Theirs was done by TransLoc. Seems like something Disney could easily implement.

Unless there is a reason they wouldn’t want guests to know where the buses are or when they might arrive...

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So what’s the plan when they eventually crap out? More skyliner?! Lol

That “space aged” elevated cho choo is completely outdated/inefficient. The future is not that...for sure.

A “margins” company won’t put up with it forever.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I know-too expensive. We were talking about self-driving open-plan buses here a while back. That’d be nice.

The bus system in Raleigh, NC has a realtime bus location tracker. Theirs was done by TransLoc. Seems like something Disney could easily implement.

Unless there is a reason they wouldn’t want guests to know where the buses are or when they might arrive...

Public and private

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Monorail, PeopleMover, self-driving pods, anything more “magical” than city busses. I understand the flexibility of a bus system, and the fact that these are outside the park transportation and not “attractions,” but I always prefer when Disney thinks outside the box (and into the future) a bit.

Buses are the most flexible for their needs...sadly.

Cities are not for profit and have taxing authority and qualify for state and federal transportation grants.

Just minor details

 

[_caleb]

Public and private

TransLoc is owned by Ford and does transportation location apps for college campuses, large corporate campuses, and municipalities. But yeah, I get that Disney is a different animal.

Maybe it would entice them to learn that they could charge for fastpasses for buses?

 

[_caleb]

Buses are the most flexible for their needs...sadly.

Cities are not for profit and have taxing authority and qualify for state and federal transportation grants.

Just minor details

They could always do a network of scooters.

 

[SourcererMark79]

Spoiler

I'm not holding my breath either

I still think you could create a series of hubs (the parks) with separate spokes. I’m going to use the monorail for this, but you could convert this to light rail too

Imagine if the express monorail was connected to the Epcot Line, and then the line was continued to DHS and then Animal Kingdom. This line would be called “The Theme Park Express Line” and at Epcot and DHS would have stops going in both directions so that it could serve as the main line to not only park hop but also transfer to other lines. Then each park would have local loops to nearby resorts like MK has (which would be extended to WL, and FW.)

That’s the dream, but that’s all it is...

I hope I'm still alive when you can get to DAK and DAKL via something other than car or bus.

 

[peter11435]

Spoiler

I'm not holding my breath either

I hope I'm still alive when you can get to DAK and DAKL via something other than car or bus.

Does Minnie van count?

 

[JoeCamel]

Does Minnie van count?

No longer