Disney Announces New Nature Resort on Bay Lake

[MerlinTheGoat]

Wow, that Springhill Suites comparison is just TOO alarmingly real. Completely bland.

And that Paris hotel in your second photo is gorgeous.

I think it is one of them most beautiful hotels Disney has ever built but that is just my opinion.

I've never been to DLP, so I guess I can't really judge the hotel. But from your picture it looks nice...

The Disneyland Hotel in Paris is absolutely stunning. I've been there myself, but you can tell it even in pictures. It's even more beautiful with the water feature and landscaping in the frame. Which is how it looks while approaching. But the hotel is beautiful regardless. A beautiful entryway into a beautiful Disney park.

 

[Hakunamatata]

“Themed to it’s natural surroundings”.

Concept art with modern looking towers.

Umm...

Its 1/1024th natural.

 

[Jon81uk]

back to 900 rooms... seems like a lot for a mid-rise resort. Wouldn't that have to be pretty sprawling? I would guess that if they expand the property that it would be built more toward the Wilderness Lodge, since the edge of Fort Wilderness (Tri-Circle D Ranch, Pioneer Hall) are basically right next to the old River Country plot.

According to Wikipedia Wilderness Lodge is 729 rooms, so 900 could be possible without being too sprawling.

 

[Mickey5150]

There's no reason not to be optimistic. New things are new things.

It's a resort. Once on property, costs nothing to visit.

Optimism is the devil in these forums.

 

[Bocabear]

Optimism is the devil in these forums.

but only because they are not showing us anything to be optimistic about... This is by far the most generic, out of place,uninspired thing I have seen them do...It would work perfectly for the parkinglot at the far end of Disney Springs...but not between Wilderness Lodge and Fort Wilderness... It's just plain bad!

 

[Horizons '83]

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Point taken, but a short sighted comparison. This DVC property will be no Wilderness Lodge thematically but it will be much nicer then a SHS and it also affords views/transportation to MK across the lake.

 

[peter11435]

Point taken, but a short sighted comparison. This DVC property will be no Wilderness Lodge thematically but it will be much nicer then a SHS and it also affords views/transportation to MK across the lake.

There will be no MK views.

 

[Horizons '83]

There will be no MK views.

Apologies, I meant lake views.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

Wow...another really cool, stunning project that has nothing to do with the parks...awesome.

Glad to see there are at least some people at WDW that have creative talent, but in the mean time, Stitch is still seasonally operational and Future World is on life support.

And glad to see that projects like this (plus Riveria resort and others) get the financial green light why maintence and simple updates to flagship attractions get scaled back.

Isn't it amazing how fast they can get these projects up and running too? Seems if it's a restaurant or hotel they can find the hysperspace button that is never there for park projects!

 

[larryz]

Will this have any brain eating amoeba?

Before or after people stay there?

 

[Club Cooloholic]

I agree that this doesn't echo modernist architecture in any real sense, beyond maybe some mid-century modernist flourishes blown up to the point of exaggeration in the porte cochere. The first thing it reminded me of is a contemporary suburban apartment complex. Indeed, take away that port cochere and it looks exactly like countless bland apartment complexes with a few fancy finishes that have sprung up in major cities all over the world during the past decade or so.

Total agreement. AKL and WL are just towers etc too, but it is the "coating" they get that gives them a little flourish and theme. At least try to not have it look like a modern hospital

 

[DisneyOutsider]

Isn't it amazing how fast they can get these projects up and running too? Seems if it's a restaurant or hotel they can find the hysperspace button that is never there for park projects!

Is that sarcasm? The opening of this resort could be as many as four full years away (2022)...

I believe we're still in the "could be scrapped overnight without a peep from Disney" phase of this project.

 

[wdisney9000]

People look happier in the bottom rendering. Probably because they realized how much money they saved by not having to pay a parking fee.

And their room door opens every time since they are not using a cell phone to open it or magic band that was somehow deactivated

 

[Missing20K]

Fallingwater was an experimental piece of art for a magnate....

It was never analyzed penny by penny to see how they could shave the margins on toilet paper.

A tad different

I feel I need to clear up my initial comments to this project.

Neither this:

Fallingwater did it first.

Or this from the Project 89 thread:

Call it Taliesin Orlando!!!

Were meant as an endorsements of the design. Quite the opposite in fact. My "defense" (for lack of a better word) of the rendering was in response to the image @wm49rs posted that I thought took the comparison too far towards hyperbole.

Nothing past the use of what appears to be some wood accents and a stone veneer point to much in the way of "nature" theme. Humans are nature, water is nature, animals are nature, stones, air, oil, diamonds, sunshine, hurricanes, etc.......it's a lazy way out of creating any real theme.

 

[wdisney9000]

Great! Another bus stop for guests staying at WL or Contemporary. /sarc

 

[Spash007]

I tend to be an optimistic person, or just look for something to be positive about. This gives me next to nothing. Everything about it is unoriginal - the close to nature concept has already been done, and done well, by Disney. The look itself, well, that's been discussed thoroughly and I'm in full agreement. That area has so much history, and this is what we get?

That said, and I'm really pulling here to try to be positive , but we don't know how the back of the resort will be. Maybe (I doubt it), the front is a little more closed off since that's where parking will be, and the major draw will actually be in the back. To be connected to nature, there could be modern touches, angles, etc, as well as lots of glass overlooking a major recreation area - a la River Country meets Stormalong Bay and the Boardwalk.

With that said, there is a lot of property back there. It would be extremely awesome to create a more wilderness type of area that the Epcot area resorts have. New facilities for the Backyard BBQ, Horseback riding, ziplining, etc. Essentially take what the campground has kick it up a notch to make it a real destination. This should at least be leading to a new home to the BBQ, so that is the one slight glimmer of hope I have that it could happen.

But the concept art makes me doubt any of that. And I feel like Disney would've announced that in the original announcement.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Fallingwater was an experimental piece of art for a magnate....

It was never analyzed penny by penny to see how they could shave the margins on toilet paper.

A tad different

*Shrug,* we'll see. I don't go insanely positive or negative over concept art. Based on the description and what I think they're going for, this theme would appeal to me, pending successful execution.

For example, Jambo House and Kidani Village are basically the exact same theme and both appeal to me in theory. Their concept art would look very similar. Jambo House wows me every time I walk through the door, while Kidani falls flat.

I think part of the problem with the concept art is that the whole thing looks like concrete. It needs to be brick, stone, slate, and hardwood. Looking closely, I think that's what they're going for, but I do agree with others that this particular rendering doesn't do justice to those textures.

Wow, that Springhill Suites comparison is just TOO alarmingly real. Completely bland.




The Disneyland Hotel in Paris is absolutely stunning. I've been there myself, but you can tell it even in pictures. It's even more beautiful with the water feature and landscaping in the frame. Which is how it looks while approaching. But the hotel is beautiful regardless. A beautiful entryway into a beautiful Disney park.

The yellow hue over that whole picture does a good job masking the fact that the thing is freaking cotton candy pink. It's "pretty" in a cartoon storybook sense, but it ain't good architecture.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

Is that sarcasm? The opening of this resort could be as many as four full years away (2022)...

I believe we're still in the "could be scrapped overnight without a peep from Disney" phase of this project.

No it's not. I realize this is just drawing plans but once the shovels come out these things tend to go pretty fast. Riviera was announced, not broken ground on in summer of 2017 and now they are saying it will be ready by next 2019 summer, thats pretty fast as opposed to Star Wars Land which was announced two years before that in 2015 and looks to not be opening till the late fall early winter 2019 in WDW after the Riveria Resort. I won't even go into how fast the restaurants go up. I realize these are not the same things, but somehow Universal is able to announce Diagon Alley was coming and get it done by the following year and nothing is lost in terms of quality and themeing.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

No it's not. I realize this is just drawing plans but once the shovels come out these things tend to go pretty fast. Riviera was announced, not broken ground on in summer of 2017 and now they are saying it will be ready by next summer, thats pretty fast as opposed to Star Wars Land which was announced two year before that in 2015 and looks to not be opening till the late fall early winter in WDW after the Riveria Resort. I won't even go into how fast the restaurants go up. I realize these are not the same things, but somehow Universal is able to announce Diagon Alley is coming and get it done by the next year and nothing is lost in terms of quality and themeing.

@DisneyOutsider wasn't speculating or making things up. Disney said 2022. That wasn't a prediction, it was part of the announcement.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Is that sarcasm? The opening of this resort could be as many as four full years away (2022)...

I believe we're still in the "could be scrapped overnight without a peep from Disney" phase of this project.

I believe the comment was pointing out how slow they bleed their capex projects - like years to build clones - when massive hotels go up in a reasonable amount of time