Disney and Universal working on Marvel deal for Florida?

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doctornick

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GLaDOS said:
An ownership group with a passion for theme parks an a willingness to spend money to make money with them.

They have that now.
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I'm skeptical that Universal's owners have "a passion for theme parks". I think it's probably more accurate that they see it as a growth market for them where they can get significant returns by investing money. It probably helped inspire them that Hogsmeade opened up soon after Comcast purchased Universal and they saw the significant increase in revenues that could be had by building up the existing theme parks.
 
GLaDOS

GLaDOS

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doctornick said:
I'm skeptical that Universal's owners have "a passion for theme parks". I think it's probably more accurate that they see it as a growth market for them where they can get significant returns by investing money. It probably helped inspire them that Hogsmeade opened up soon after Comcast purchased Universal and they saw the significant increase in revenues that could be had by building up the existing theme parks.
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I'd argue there are some there (Steve Burke, mostly) that certainly have an interest in the parks and what they can do for the business. Either way, they see the potential, which is the larger point.
 
MichWolv

MichWolv

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GLaDOS said:
An ownership group with a passion for theme parks an a willingness to spend money to make money with them.

They have that now.
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doctornick said:
I'm skeptical that Universal's owners have "a passion for theme parks". I think it's probably more accurate that they see it as a growth market for them where they can get significant returns by investing money. It probably helped inspire them that Hogsmeade opened up soon after Comcast purchased Universal and they saw the significant increase in revenues that could be had by building up the existing theme parks.
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Two sides of the same coin. Comcast has a passion for theme parks and a willingness to spend money on them...because Comcast sees theme parks as a growth market where significant returns can be realized. If Comcast decides at some point down the road that significant returns can't be realized from spending money on theme parks, the passion for spending money on them will dissipate.
 
GLaDOS

GLaDOS

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MichWolv said:
Two sides of the same coin. Comcast has a passion for theme parks and a willingness to spend money on them...because Comcast sees theme parks as a growth market where significant returns can be realized. If Comcast decides at some point down the road that significant returns can't be realized from spending money on theme parks, the passion for spending money on them will dissipate.
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Right. The people who owned Universal's parks before Comcast, whether it was Vivendi, GE, or Blackstone, really had no idea what they were doing with them. Their main concern while they owned UOR was trying to sap as much profits they could from them while spending as little as they could on them, as well as looking to offload the parks incase anyone became interested.

I'm not trying to say Comcast is Walt and his Nine Old Men, but they certainly see how the "Build It And They Will Come" strategy works when it comes to parks. I seriously doubt Universal will see the rapid expansion and growth it sees today forever, but as of now the resort is run by the exact opposite philosophy it had been languishing under from 2001-2010.
 
MichWolv

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GLaDOS said:
I'm not trying to say Comcast is Walt and his Nine Old Men, but they certainly see how the "Build It And They Will Come" strategy works when it comes to parks. I seriously doubt Universal will see the rapid expansion and growth it sees today forever, but as of now the resort is run by the exact opposite philosophy it had been languishing under from 2001-2010.
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Agree. I figure that IoA is due for a handful of additional significant improvements (Kong, something for super hero and toon lagoon, perhaps some work on Poseidon and something new in Seuss-land, and some plussing for Hogsmeade), and the original park a couple. That'll get to the point that 3 full days are necessary for most people to see the two parks. Then it will be interesting to see if the powers that be want to push the parks further. My sense is that spending will tail off then, with the focus going to upgrading resorts, park dining, etc., but that's still probably 5-7 years away.
 
GLaDOS

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MichWolv said:
Agree. I figure that IoA is due for a handful of additional significant improvements (Kong, something for super hero and toon lagoon, perhaps some work on Poseidon and something new in Seuss-land, and some plussing for Hogsmeade), and the original park a couple. That'll get to the point that 3 full days are necessary for most people to see the two parks. Then it will be interesting to see if the powers that be want to push the parks further. My sense is that spending will tail off then, with the focus going to upgrading resorts, park dining, etc., but that's still probably 5-7 years away.
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Yes. The interesting thing comes when the two parks are "complete", the fifth resort is open (next year), and the water park is complete (2017). After that there will be little to no expansion room left in the existing resort. Are they content to stay there? Or are they really going to swing for the fences?
 
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ULPO46

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This has been a work in progress since Marvel Was aquired by the Walt Disney Co. It's not much of a rumor that eventually the power of Disney's Legal Team will buy out the rights to a Marvel Theme Park.
 
71jason

71jason

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George said:
I see that, but the east and west of the Mississippi verbage is still awkward. Thus, why I was wondering why not just use the 300 mile rule they have for advertising later. Hell, just make it 500 miles if you don't want it near Uni in Florida. Using a geographic landmark is arbitrary and weird. Its not like the Mississippi is a big barrier to travel any more. We don't get to the shore on horseback, make eye contact, and wonder what we're going to do now. "I sure hope Cleetus was able to get his hands on that raft".
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Because the major Orlando feeder markets--NJ, NY, CT, PA--are all > 500 miles away--but east of the Mississippi.
 
lazyboy97o

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tl77 said:
Universal has had the theme park rights to Marvel's "Comic Book Illustrations" since 1999, if they've also had the rights to Fox's cinematic depictions of the 8 X-men, and 2 Fantasitc4 "movie" characters, Sony's 5 Spiderman films, and the PARMOUNT Disney Marvel produced characters, what has Universal been waiting for the past 15 years? maybe they've been saying up their money to but THE COPYRIGHTS for those Cinematic depictions of those multi-Billion dollar franchises that each of those Studios own, ya think that might be it?
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If you would just read the contract instead of making things up you'd know the year Marvel acquired the rights and that your phrases do not appear. And again, Paramount never owned or produced any part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe films.
 
Frankie The Beer

Frankie The Beer

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Disney gets Star Wars and makes a little themed area with a pretty cool e-ticket. ( <--- Fanboi glasses.)

Disney gets the Muppets and makes a nice little attraction, but they could have done so much more with it.

I understand the need for some to want Disney to control Marvel in their theme parks, it makes for good forum reading, but what would Disney really do with Marvel beyond what they have done so far with better ip's, ie, Star Wars? I think they would make a nice little themed area with an e-ticket. Universal, hopefully, will do Marvel right. If they really are going to do some new building, and in my opinion tear down everything but Spider-Man and reload, let them spend the money, I'll even look forward to it. This subject gets way to played out.
 
danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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ULPO46 said:
This has been a work in progress since Marvel Was aquired by the Walt Disney Co. It's not much of a rumor that eventually the power of Disney's Legal Team will buy out the rights to a Marvel Theme Park.
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It's not much of a rumor because a number of reliable sources have said that not only is Uni not giving up the contract but will be expanding the Marvel presence in IOA.
 
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doctornick

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lazyboy97o said:
If you would just read the contract instead of making things up you'd know the year Marvel acquired the rights and that your phrases do not appear. And again, Paramount never owned or produced any part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe films.
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Paramount developed Iron Man and Universal did The Incredible Hulk. Those films came out before Disney even bought Marvel.
 

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