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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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brideck
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Worse than that. Most theaters run it on multiple screens, which isn't reflected in the theater count. Locally, it was on ~3 screens per theater at our big multiplexes.
MoonRakerSCM
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Ah!!! I am under the impression that 4200 theatres is individual movie screens... but is it address theatres? I mean yeah, up in Bishop CA, theyre showing it on one screen... but irvine must've had 5+ screens showing it.
So the industry metric of theatre is address location, not individual screens?
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Correct, as I think there are like ~40K screens in the US. Plus that number of theaters also includes Canada I believe.
MoonRakerSCM
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Ah! I was going to say, my arm waving average of 56 people per showing seemed a bit high... by dividing that by 5 resulting in 11.2 people per showing sounds about right with what people saw all weekend.
When I looked on Saturday at 5pm, my preferred local cinema had 20 screenings of 'Snow White' on Sunday, and 40 total tickets had been sold at that time. It was roughly the same the day prior for Saturday as well, and Friday had even fewer tickets sold in advance. Their monster screen (well over 150 seats) had 3 of 4 showings on Sunday completely empty when I looked.
easyrowrdw
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Those budgets are nuts.
Also, the Billy Bob Thornton Alamo is great. The audiences were wrong!! lol
I didn’t love all of those (I never saw BFG) but I would probably only cite Alice as an example of poor Disney quality. I personally think Jungle Book and Pete’s Dragon are the best of the remakes.
Personal opinions aside, other than Alice, the Metacritic ratings for each of the movies listed are also pretty good.
Zootopia: 78; Moana: 81; Captain America: Civil War: 75; Doctor Strange: 72; Pete's Dragon: 71; Alice Through the Looking Glass: 34; The BFG: 66; Finding Dory: 77; The Jungle Book: 77.*
I don't think Disney movies used to always be good before and are now terrible, but I do think their hit rate on quality used to be higher.
*Disclosure: I used Copilot to compile the list for me and then I checked its work
Disney Irish
Premium Member
BTW, no one brought it up but Cap4 did cross $400M WW this weekend -
Not that that is anything but still a loss overall right now, but someone made the comment that is wasn't going to beat Eternals unadjusted WW number and it will.
Not that that is anything but still a loss overall right now, but someone made the comment that is wasn't going to beat Eternals unadjusted WW number and it will.
easyrowrdw
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It was noted in this post but I don't think anyone talked about it
‘Snow White’ Bashful With $87.3M Global Bow; ‘Captain America: Brave New World’ Crosses $400M WW – International Box Office
‘Snow White’ Bashful With $87.3M Global Bow; ‘Captain America: Brave New World’ Crosses $400M WW – International Box Office
Disney’s live-action take on Snow White has come in with a global launch of $87.3M, including $44.3M from international box office marketsdeadline.com
Disstevefan1
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Disney has the power to keep their movies in the theaters a long time to squeeze every last dollar out of a movie.
brideck
Well-Known Member
They do, but if other studios actually made and promoted a lot of big movies anymore it wouldn't seem like Disney was such an outlier in this regard.
brideck
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Yeah, this is why I like to report number of screenings for my local theaters when big movies open to compare just how big of an opening they're actually getting. 4200 could easily equal just 1 screen/theater or it could equal 5 screens/theater.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
…they can’t
Because they pursued a bad policy In streaming that produces marginal returns and a content problem that costs more and matters more each day…
So they need more movies…they need huge box office from them…and then they need people to subscribe to the stream and watch ads on them…
…what can go wrong with that plan?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
You just explained a lot of the reality why Disney has had to change course on the direction they pointed their studios in…
Plenty of firings…and more desperately needed to come
DisneyWarrior27
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Disney Irish
Premium Member
No one is afraid of you.
It really was a missed post, an honest oversight. Credit goes to you for posting it first if that is what you’re looking for.
TP2000
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Here's how the first big three mega-budget tentpoles from Burbank look so far in 2025.
Right now, assuming Snow White is headed to a $200 Million loss this spring, they're looking at a total loss of about $234 Million so far at the box office.
Mufasa: $200 Production, $100 Marketing, $152 Domestic, $185 Overseas = $37 Million Profit
Captain America 4: $180 Production, $90 Marketing, $115 Domestic, $84 Overseas = $71 Million Loss
Snow White: $250 Production, $100 Marketing, $90 Domestic???, $60 Overseas??? = $200 Million Loss???
Right now, assuming Snow White is headed to a $200 Million loss this spring, they're looking at a total loss of about $234 Million so far at the box office.
Mufasa: $200 Production, $100 Marketing, $152 Domestic, $185 Overseas = $37 Million Profit
Captain America 4: $180 Production, $90 Marketing, $115 Domestic, $84 Overseas = $71 Million Loss
Snow White: $250 Production, $100 Marketing, $90 Domestic???, $60 Overseas??? = $200 Million Loss???
brideck
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All right, I did some crunching based on Snow White's open, and if it gets holds like Maleficent: Mistress of Evil it'll end up around $130m domestic. If it instead gets holds like Dumbo, which performed really poorly, it'll end up around $105m domestic.
If it ends up higher than $75m after next weekend, then it'll have gotten a decent word-of-mouth bump and everything will need to be recalibrated. We'll see how much those school-age girls are talking to each other about it this week.
If it ends up higher than $75m after next weekend, then it'll have gotten a decent word-of-mouth bump and everything will need to be recalibrated. We'll see how much those school-age girls are talking to each other about it this week.
TP2000
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Oh, geez. Without going into finer detail like you just did (I hate math), I had it broadly headed to about $150 Million domestic, and overseas, for a total of $300 Million at the global box office which gets it to about a $200 Million loss.
If Snow White only does $115 Million or so domestic, that puts it on a trajectory for a loss north of $250 Million.
That's gonna leave an ugly mark on the 2025 box office data, to be sure.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
It'll all depend on how international goes. For comparisons using Maleficent it had almost 3.5x international than it did domestic. So we'll have to wait and see if international picks up in the big way over the next couple weeks.Oh, geez. Without going into finer detail like you just did (I hate math), I had it broadly headed to about $150 Million domestic, and overseas, for a total of $300 Million at the global box office which gets it to about a $200 Million loss.
If Snow White only does $115 Million or so domestic, that puts it on a trajectory for a loss north of $250 Million.
That's gonna leave an ugly mark on the 2025 box office data, to be sure.