Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Tony the Tigger]

Well-played, sir.

252K views · 11K reactions | There’s been A TON of heated debate over Disney’s newest live action Snow White retelling with star Rachel Zegler… and how the character is portrayed. This is nothing new… every Disney Princess live action has had the sa

There’s been A TON of heated debate over Disney’s newest live action Snow White retelling with star Rachel Zegler… and how the character is portrayed. This is nothing new… every Disney Princess live...

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[TalkingHead]

Snow White OW: $43M domestic, $87.3M total

In tribute to the original film: Iger’s Folly

 

[Chi84]

There is nothing wrong with not using a new technology.
My Grandmother said she was scared of the telephone when they first got one in the house.
Many said the same thing when the internet came out when I got out of college… it didn’t stop the internet.

We don’t have this message board without the internet.

I don’t object to it. It’s clearly identified as AI and easy enough to skip over if one is not interested.

I personally find it of limited value but then people are posting screenshots of theaters seating charts so . . .

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

Good morning from the San Diego 5k! I'm still training for a half in May so I only managed the 5k this morning. My friends are much more trained than I am and currently just passed the 10k split in the half marathon. Im enjoying my now traditional (unless I switch back to the half) post 5k bottomless mimosas and fruit platter at Provisional Kitchen in the Gaslamp Quarter. The grapefruit is particularly spectacular this morning. I figured I'd check out the local theaters down here SD way this AM, ya know, in case we get a sudden hankering for a bit of post race Snow White... but my fears of not being able to find a seat are quite unfounded this morning-

 

[Farerb]

Snow White OW: $43M domestic, $87.3M total

In tribute to the original film: Iger’s Folly

It's a disaster!

 

[MagicMouseFan]

I don’t object to it. It’s clearly identified as AI and easy enough to skip over if one is not interested.

I personally find it of limited value but then people are posting screenshots of theaters seating charts so . . .

Exactly, I’m the opposite. I find it fascinating and love doing deep dives.

But yes… each their own and no one has to read the information discovered.

But it does look like and rightfully so back in 2019 that Disney was expecting Snow White to make 1 billion at the box office. To be fair 2019 was a different world for the movie business.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

I don’t remember anyone saying that. There’s a huge difference between the internet itself and the multiple activities and services it hosts. There are many such activities and services that I refuse to use; ChatGBT is among them.

I encourage you to never use AI, I for one feel it will help my company and will be hugely impactful in my kids lives and want them comfortable with the pros and cons.


For the internet… It exploded our business out of college when everyone in my family’s industry said it was a fad. Including my father until he saw the benefits.

Teachers in college forbid the use of internet to look up information and said we had to go to the library.
We searched on the internet anyway for our research.

Clifford Stoll famously wrote a piece in Newsweek titled “Why the Web Won’t Be Nirvana,” arguing that the internet was cumbersome, slow, and impractical, suggesting it would fade away after initial curiosity passed.

 

[LittleBuford]

I don’t object to it.

I do. It’s not a question of fear, as the poster you’re replying to suggested, but of seeing the damage it’s already done to education and wanting no part of it. Many students no longer feel the need to think or speak for themselves; they are getting AI to write their essays for them. The effects of this shift are truly depressing. I will never endorse a tool that is leading us to stop using our own brains and words.

 

[Chi84]

I do. It’s not a question of fear, as the poster you’re replying to suggested, but of seeing the damage it’s already done to education and wanting no part of it. Many students no longer feel the need to think or speak for themselves; they are getting AI to write their essays for them. The effects of this shift are truly depressing. I will never endorse a tool that is leading us to stop using our own brains and words.

You’re right. I agree. My response was that I don’t object to their posts here because they don’t appear to violate the TOS.

 

[LittleBuford]

I encourage you to never use AI, I for one feel it will help my company and will be hugely impactful in my kids lives and want them comfortable with the pros and cons.


For the internet… It exploded our business out of college when everyone in my families industry said it was a fad. Including my father until he saw the benefits.

Teachers in college forbid the use of internet to look up information and said we had to go to the library.
We searched on the internet anyway for our research.

Clifford Stoll famously wrote a piece in Newsweek titled “Why the Web Won’t Be Nirvana,” arguing that the internet was cumbersome, slow, and impractical, suggesting it would fade away after initial curiosity passed.

I have no idea why you’re conflating an opposition to AI with opposition to the internet. That would be like saying someone opposed to online p*rn is opposed to the internet just because the latter is the locus of the former.

 

[LittleBuford]

You’re right. I agree. My response was that I don’t object to their posts here because they don’t appear to violate the TOS.

Sorry for misunderstanding. I agree with you!

 

[donaldtoo]

There is nothing wrong with not using a new technology.
My Grandmother said she was scared of the telephone when they first got one in the house.
Many said the same thing when the internet came out when I got out of college… it didn’t stop the internet.

We don’t have this message board without the internet.

Brings back memories…
My grandparents on my Moms side had a phone on their farm, but it was on a party line…3 short rings, one long.
My grandparents on my Pops side never had a phone on their farm.
The only way they/we knew of local news, or a visit, was when someone started up the long dirt road and the hounds started losing their minds…it was always such a fun thing…!!!!!
My apologies for the thread drift, and trip down Memory Lane.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

I do. It’s not a question of fear, as the poster you’re replying to suggested, but of seeing the damage it’s already done to education and wanting no part of it. Many students no longer feel the need to think or speak for themselves; they are getting AI to write their essays for them. The effects of this shift are truly depressing. I will never endorse a tool that is leading us to stop using our own brains and words.

It's truly horrible. What I am not looking forward to is the next evolution of the internet... we're already noticeably beyond a stage where the hive mind of the internet could do amazing things utilizing the 'new' tools at hand. Noticeably in the past 5 years or so, that hive mind has gotten dull and useless and information/thought that was readily available is decreasingly so. I blame not necessarily AI but social media as it has rotted the usefulness of the internet. The years of wonder and awe at being connected to the world in ways we couldn't imagine have surpaassed people using that power and in turn are now just social media rot.

 

[Agent H]

What? reboots, remakes, sequels are in the same IP franchise bucket, Dis/Iger MO for 15 years

1. Reboots? What reboots? Star Wars and Indiana Jones were revived. But there have been no reboots. 2. According to my research universal has made about 35 prequels and sequels in the last 15 years. Warner bros Has made about 40. Disneys made 34 not counting DCOMs so they are not making more then their 2 biggest competitors.

 

[John park hopper]

Good morning from the San Diego 5k! I'm still training for a half in May so I only managed the 5k this morning. My friends are much more trained than I am and currently just passed the 10k split in the half marathon. Im enjoying my now traditional (unless I switch back to the half) post 5k bottomless mimosas and fruit platter at Provisional Kitchen in the Gaslamp Quarter. The grapefruit is particularly spectacular this morning. I figured I'd check out the local theaters down here SD way this AM, ya know, in case we get a sudden hankering for a bit of post race Snow White... but my fears of not being able to find a seat are quite unfounded this morning-

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All those available seats and you choose the very side seats make me wonder if your there not to watch the movie I'll let you fill in the rest

 

[MagicMouseFan]

Brings back memories…
My grandparents on my Moms side had a phone on their farm, but it was on a party line…3 short rings, one long.
My grandparents on my Pops side never had a phone on their farm.
The only way they/we knew of local news, or a visit, was when someone started up the long dirt road and the hounds started losing their minds…it was always such a fun thing…!!!!!
My apologies for the thread drift, and trip down Memory Lane.

I love it!
Your story reminds me of the comedy bit by
Sebastian Maniscalco and how people used to welcome unexpected guests back in the day.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Just stating my observation. You are of course free to call it silly.

My observation is Disney makes the movies they want to make, it appears to me the money does not matter, they will spend whatever money they need to spend to finish a movie for better or worse.

Some will return a profit, many won’t but that doesn’t stop Disney from telling stories they want to tell, and sometimes re tell previous stories the way todays Disney wants to tell them.

I still think Disney has a Burbank bubble problem, they are surrounded by like minded people so they think thats how everyone thinks. The echo chamber needs more dissenting voices to say “that’s not going to go over well in middle America”, or “that’s not going to work with the Asian market”, without those voices the movies they make appeal to a far smaller audience than they need to to be profitable.

Disney has always pushed the boundaries, and I think they’ll continue to push them, but I think they’ve misjudged where the boundaries actually are, SoCal is far more progressive than the world is so if they’re making movies for the SoCal mindset they’re severely limiting their audience.

People celebrated when Perlmutter was forced out but the reality is they need more Perlmutters in the room to speak the realities of the world.

 

[Agent H]

I still think Disney has a Burbank bubble problem, they are surrounded by like minded people so they think thats how everyone thinks. The echo chamber needs more dissenting voices to say “that’s not going to go over well in middle America”, or “that’s not going to work with the Asian market”, without those voices the movies they make appeal to a far smaller audience than they need to to be profitable.

Disney has always pushed the boundaries, and I think they’ll continue to push them, but I think they’ve misjudged where the boundaries actually are, SoCal is far more progressive than the world is so if they’re making movies for the SoCal mindset they’re severely limiting their audience.

People celebrated when Perlmutter was forced out but the reality is they need more Perlmutters in the room to speak the realities of the world.

The guy who greenlit inhumans? That guy?

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

All those available seats and you choose the very side seats make me wonder if your there not to watch the movie I'll let you fill in the rest

There are distincly two types of seats being selected for this film... the ones in the middle, who are there to watch it... and the ones on the edges and rear... they are not there to watch it.

 

[LittleBuford]

All those available seats and you choose the very side seats make me wonder if your there not to watch the movie I'll let you fill in the rest

Are you suggesting that Disney is buying tickets for nonexistent customers?