Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Tony the Tigger

Tony the Tigger

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Farerb said:
Snow White's journey symbolizes a coming of age. A little girl becoming a woman. Eating the apple is the loss of innocence we experience as we grow up, but also the entire scenery with Snow White evokes life while the Queen evokes death and decay, hence why when she eats the apple the entire atmosphere changes from sunny to raining, as if the world died with her, and the power of true love is what wakes Snow but also brings life to the world again.
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Does she not turn into a woman in this one?

Are you confusing Snow White with Eve? Snow White’s apple wasn’t temptation; it was attempted murder.
 
erasure fan1

erasure fan1

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Disney Irish said:
Hollywood followed suit which is why you notice that RomComs by and large also went away. I mean look at the recent RomCom that came out in 2023, Anyone but you. It did $219M WW at the box office, and only $88M domestic. While good compared to its budget, its not some earth shattering smash hit box office earner here that Hollywood is looking for.
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I can't say I follow RomComs but have they ever been earth shattering smash hits? You made a romcom for a very modest budget, released it to theaters where it would maybe make it's budget back. Then the death of rental and rise of streaming killed what the real play for romcoms was. Now you don't get the rental income, or the home video cash, then the premium network money that leads to your regular network syndication cash. Romcoms were never going to sell a streaming service and they aren't making bank at the box office. So what is the insensitive for studios to make them? Of course that's just what I saw with the situation.
 
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easyrowrdw

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Chi84 said:
Good lord what kind of crap do you watch?! 🤣

Do you believe there is anything in any way, shape or form that is feminist about that, faux or otherwise? I'll admit I had to turn the sound off about halfway.
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Chi84 said:
I can’t imagine that video influencing anyone. Maybe the men here who have such an issue with young female stars because it might explain some things.
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I've never seen that video and would be inclined to agree with you. But it has 179 million views! I think we might be underestimating the influence of things like this.
 
Casper Gutman

Casper Gutman

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erasure fan1 said:
That's fine, unfortunately we won't see eye to eye on this. Keep this in mind. Continuous accusations and furthering the division, Does not make you a good person or the white knight you believe. You've said I don't believe you're this, or that. But it's always followed with comments that insinuate the opposite. No matter what anyone says, if it's not 100% your same view, the accusations start flying. If you want to say being optimistic and not everyone is racist, is having my head in the sand and the same as enabling racism, nothing I can do will change your mind. But I can say I think what you do here, only enables and fosters more division. And that's a shame because there's a bunch we agree on.
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A lot of straw men here.

I will simply say that the idea that, “recognizing and being honest about bigotry is what really divides us,” is a very old and a very silly idea.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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erasure fan1 said:
I can't say I follow RomComs but have they ever been earth shattering smash hits? You made a romcom for a very modest budget, released it to theaters where it would maybe make it's budget back. Then the death of rental and rise of streaming killed what the real play for romcoms was. Now you don't get the rental income, or the home video cash, then the premium network money that leads to your regular network syndication cash. Romcoms were never going to sell a streaming service and they aren't making bank at the box office. So what is the insensitive for studios to make them? Of course that's just what I saw with the situation.
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Yes maybe the rise of streaming helped accelerate that situation as it did with a lot things that changed with the theatrical space.

Successful ones would make $300-$400M WW on average in the days before streaming. Now as I mentioned they barely crack $200M WW. So yes I agree that Studios have no incentives to releasing something when they can push it to streaming and get better ROI.

So it’s a chicken and egg situation. If audience really want something they need to come out in full force when an example of it gets released. Otherwise if it’s a mediocre response Studios will just move onto something else.
 
Tony the Tigger

Tony the Tigger

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Last minute decision! I was already shopping in the plaza. More people than I’d like, so I’m the red dot in the back. Hubby is at work. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Time to shut the phone down! 🤫
 
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DKampy

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erasure fan1 said:
I can't say I follow RomComs but have they ever been earth shattering smash hits? You made a romcom for a very modest budget, released it to theaters where it would maybe make its budget back. Then the death of rental and rise of streaming killed what the real play for romcoms was. Now you don't get the rental income, or the home video cash, then the premium network money that leads to your regular network syndication cash. Romcoms were never going to sell a streaming service and they aren't making bank at the box office. So what is the insensitive for studios to make them? Of course that's just what I saw with the situation.
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I have not checked grosses… but Sleepless in Seattle, When Harry Met Sally, and Grease all feel like they may have been hits in their day… at least that is what immediately pops in my head
 

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