Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

TsWade2

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I don't think Elemental counts as that queer character was blink and you miss it.

Strange World had decent-ish gay representation, although because the movie as a whole was rather bad/bland, it unfortunately didn't have the impact it should have.

To date, I think Nimona on Netflix is the best queer representation I've seen in a family film. I can't see Disney making an animated movie like that with such prominent gay characters and LGBT themes in the current climate. Maybe in about six years, if the pendulum swings back in a more progressive direction, the company will once again consider taking a stab at significant representation.
Yeah, don't get your hopes up! Look: https://www.ign.com/articles/inside...mployees-who-crunched-on-it-are-still-hurting
 

Miss Rori

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An animated film will never win Best Picture, no matter how good it is, and at this point they have been sanitized so much that they aren't even being considered for a nomination.
Sad but true. There are lovely, mature animated films being produced internationally but they'll never be considered in the American-centric Oscar race for Best Picture, and American feature animation just doesn't have "the sauce" or whatever The Kids are calling it these days to get that far.
 

BrianLo

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I also did not realize it was there… I walk by it all the time. Oops.

The Canadian Pixar arm that was closed about a decade ago was in Gastown. I visited them.

I was about to come into this thread hot and heavy that people were off their rockers saying WDAS Canada was in a bad location… it’s probably more desirable than Burbank in some ways. I’m glad to see you shut that down.
 

BrianLo

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Current Wicked tally seems to be more of a lack of midweek family phenomenon (but it’s doing stellar and deserves to)!

Deadline still has Moana 2 at 60M this weekend and Wicked at 32. Either way, both are major, major accomplishments for this weekend. Moana 2 will have the best post Thanksgiving performance weekend of all time and Wicked will have I think the third just behind Frozen 2, which was also in week three… but it could very well topple that for second all time if this momentum keeps up!

I know there’s been some tit for tat leading up to these two, but it’s really a case of both being phenomenal box office successes. There is no loser here.
 

LittleBuford

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The Canadian Pixar arm that was closed about a decade ago was in Gastown. I visited them.

I was about to come into this thread hot and heavy that people were off their rockers saying WDAS Canada was in a bad location… it’s probably more desirable than Burbank in some ways. I’m glad to see you shut that down.
That may have been my fault for misunderstanding what @TP2000 was getting at.
 

DKampy

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Considering how weak the Oscar race is this year, there’s a chance that a more ambitious-riskier Inside Out sequel might’ve become the first animated Best Picture winner. Not that Disney would trade that for the box office…
As much as I liked Inside Out 2 (and I do think it”s a great movie)it will never happen….most likely won’t even get nominated…. It’s not as weak as you might think
 

Ghost93

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I think the Wild Robot (or some other movie) will win the Oscar over Inside Out 2. I do think Inside Out 2 is worth of a nomination, however, for Best Animated Feature. Unlike Moana 2, Inside Out 2 is actually a good movie.
 

DKampy

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An animated film will never win Best Picture, no matter how good it is, and at this point they have been sanitized so much that they aren't even being considered for a nomination.
Never say never. I think it could happen at some point….Beauty and The Beast and Up have already been nominated… I think one of the Toy Story’s has as well…. I think a win will eventually happen… it won’t be this year though
 

DKampy

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I think the Wild Robot (or some other movie) will win the Oscar over Inside Out 2. I do think Inside Out 2 is worth of a nomination, however, for Best Animated Feature. Unlike Moana 2, Inside Out 2 is actually a good movie.
I also have a feeling The Wild Robot will win best Animated
 

BrianLo

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That may have been my fault for misunderstanding what @TP2000 was getting at.

That’s ok, we’ll hold vigil for the families who have their parent or spouse suffer by working in Yaletown! 😂

I was having one of those, “literally the people of WDWMagic will talk out their rear about things they don’t know” moments. Foaming at the mouth.

Honestly, Vancouver is the perfect place for the second studio. Access to a lot of talent. Hollywood already has major presence there, it’s incredibly easy to zip down on a flight. Despite what a few people keep saying, this isn’t an outsourcing situation. The Vancouver studio might even be enviable. I was quite saddened Pixar left Vancouver and hope they might someday return.
 

easyrowrdw

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Not to mention having very little to do with the character everyone wanted to see, and not being voiced by the actor who made the character what he was. Both of which were the biggest factors, not the other stuff.
Reading the article about how “careful” Disney was with Inside Out 2 and the one posted earlier about Moana 2, Disney seems to think the other stuff had a negative impact. On a multiple choice exam, I’d pick All of the Above lol
 
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DisneyWarrior27

Active Member
I think the Wild Robot (or some other movie) will win the Oscar over Inside Out 2. I do think Inside Out 2 is worth of a nomination, however, for Best Animated Feature. Unlike Moana 2, Inside Out 2 is actually a good movie.
Kinda rooting for The Day The Earth Blew Up: A Looney Tunes Movie to win that award.
 

LittleBuford

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Given the article about how “careful” Disney was with Inside Out 2 and the one posted earlier about Moana 2, Disney seems to think the other stuff had a negative impact. On a multiple choice exam, I’d pick All of the Above lol
Quoting the article:

“It is, as far as I know, still a thing, where leadership, they'll bring up Lightyear specifically and say, ‘Oh, Lightyear was a financial failure because it had a queer kiss in it,’” one source tells IGN. “That's not the reason the movie failed.”​

So yes, some in leadership positions seem to agree with certain posters here, while the quoted source disagrees. I don't think one can talk of a monolithic "Disney" position on this.

Given that a tonne of movies and shows with queer characters and so-called "agendas" have done really well in recent years, I think we should apply Occam's Razor in this case. Does anyone who's seen Lightyear really believe it would have done significantly better had that one character been straight? Why overlook the fact that the film was just all-around boring?
 
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DisneyWarrior27

Active Member
It's really the best animated movie of 2024 and probably the best one in years!
I’ll bet I’ll share your sentiment when I see it in the US at the end of February.

Plus, its win could help further swing the pendulum in Hollywood back to making more hand-drawn animated movies for theaters.

Hence why I’m pushing for Moana 2 to make a billion at the box office and for Looney Tunes: The Day The Earth Blew Up to win at the awards circuit after that, so that Disney will be swayed to turn Tiana’s Paperman-style animated Disney+ series into a theatrical fully 2D/hand-drawn animated film sequel to The Princess and the Frog for a release in Thanksgiving 2029.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Reading the article about how “careful” Disney was with Inside Out 2 and the one posted earlier about Moana 2, Disney seems to think the other stuff had a negative impact. On a multiple choice exam, I’d pick All of the Above lol
That is all just media spin, and I'll just leave it at that.
 

TalkingHead

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Yall catch that Barry Jenkins interview where he basically said Mufasa taught him CGI moviemaking “isn’t his thing”? Plus he says he took the job so he could work in LA and get paid. Weird things to say on a promotional tour.
 

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