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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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If we believe the 180M budget of Thunderbolts* ( is it my imagination or many movie budgets of Disney movies is stated at 180M?)

Anyway if we believe they made the movie for 180M and since we are forced ;) to use the 2.5 multiplier, then the movie needs 450M to break even at the box office.

I think this will happen and Thunderbolts* should even make some money.
 
brideck

brideck

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Casper Gutman said:
It’s so dumb it honestly makes me wonder if I’m wrong for generally agreeing with the negative consensus on the theme park side of this site.
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Come to the light side, where you can have fun stress-free when you visit a Disney park!

Not coincidentally, me and my fam will be pulling into French Quarter tomorrow for a 4-day visit. Looking forward to it.
 
Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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Thunderbolts is losing IMAX screens back to Sinners in two weeks, and then for good to Mission: Impossible. That’s going to eat into its legs. They also have to shift marketing resources over to Stitch.
 
TalkingHead

TalkingHead

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Also expect Fantastic Four to underperform, especially overseas where 1960s US nostalgia isn’t a compelling selling point. That’ll make three MCU films in a year that didn’t break through to general audiences. Next CEO needs to plan accordingly.
 
TalkingHead

TalkingHead

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Tha Realest said:
Thunderbolts is losing IMAX screens back to Sinners in two weeks, and then for good to Mission: Impossible. That’s going to eat into its legs. They also have to shift marketing resources over to Stitch.
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Yep, Captain America 4 had like two months all to itself with hardly any competition and we saw how it did.
 
Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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TalkingHead said:
Also expect Fantastic Four to underperform, especially overseas where 1960s US nostalgia isn’t a compelling selling point. That’ll make three MCU films in a year that didn’t break through to general audiences. Next CEO needs to plan accordingly.
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I don't think the next CEO is going to change anything regarding Marvel and Disney's tentpole strategy.

Maybe some characters or IP don't get sequels, but that's it.

I'm also skeptical of Disney pulling back on live-action remakes if Stitch is expected to do as well as it does.
 
Casper Gutman

Casper Gutman

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2014: Guardians of the Galaxy - 160.7 million global opening weekend
“Wow! What an amazing opening! The MCU is invincible! This will launch a trilogy, theme park attractions, and make several characters iconic fixtures of global pop culture!”

*inflation
*devastating pandemic and technological and economic changes that destroy theatrical exhibition - it never fully recovers
*ruling party labels Disney an Enemy of the People

2025: Thunderbolts* - 162.1 million global opening weekend
“What a bomb! The MCU is dead! No one likes it anymore! It’s marginal to pop culture, just like the other most successful media franchise in history!”
 
TalkingHead

TalkingHead

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Animaniac93-98 said:
I don't think the next CEO is going to change anything regarding Marvel and Disney's tentpole strategy.

Maybe some characters or IP don't get sequels, but that's it.

I'm also skeptical of Disney pulling back on live-action remakes if Stitch is expected to do as well as it does.
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Disagree. Current strategy is Iger’s baby and shows diminishing returns. Too late for him to course correct even if he were inclined.

Next CEO is going to inherit a Disney with declining BO and will have to make some decisions about how to respond.
 
TP2000

TP2000

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DKampy said:
Rust is doing awful in theaters…. Only doing about 25 thousand in 115 theaters… that is only 217 per theater all weekend…. It seems like most are with me…. I will not be seeing this… should of been scrapped… but hey let’s turn a tragedy into a marketing gimmick
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I agree with you on all of that. But as a very wise woman once said "Hey, that's Hollywood baby!" :cool:
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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Vegas Disney Fan said:
$500 million looks likely, not great but not horrible either.
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Agreed which would put it in the profitable during theatrical category.

Vegas Disney Fan said:
This is another apples to oranges comparison, one is looking at box office only, the other is looking at box office, digital, streaming, etc.
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Its not though. The problem is that TP and others who like to make wild speculation on the losses of Studios leave off the rest (and still over inflates even the theatrical because he likes to attribute the entire marketing budget to theatrical). A movie doesn't stop earning Studios money just because it leaves the theaters, this is another reminder of that. So you have to look at the actual end of year financials to see the reality of any profit/loss, and TP and others never do that. They just make their claim that Studios loses huge sums of money and moves on, never coming back and updating the situation. That's why @BrianLo and others tracking the actuals puts things into perspective and shows the reality, that it was not as dire in most situations as TP and others claimed.
 
Casper Gutman

Casper Gutman

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brideck said:
Come to the light side, where you can have fun stress-free when you visit a Disney park!

Not coincidentally, me and my fam will be pulling into French Quarter tomorrow for a 4-day visit. Looking forward to it.
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I truly hope you have a great time. FQ is one of my two favorite resorts.

Unfortunately, the knowledge of industry history and practices that makes me forgiving or even celebratory about Disneys studio side makes me deeply negative about the theme park side!

So I’ll just grumble.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Casper Gutman said:
2014: Guardians of the Galaxy - 160.7 million global opening weekend
“Wow! What an amazing opening! The MCU is invincible! This will launch a trilogy, theme park attractions, and make several characters iconic fixtures of global pop culture!”

*inflation
*devastating pandemic and technological and economic changes that destroy theatrical exhibition - it never fully recovers
*ruling party labels Disney an Enemy of the People

2025: Thunderbolts* - 162.1 million global opening weekend
“What a bomb! The MCU is dead! No one likes it anymore! It’s marginal to pop culture, just like the other most successful media franchise in history!”
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I mean…do you really need to be told what’s wrong with your fit this time?
 
TP2000

TP2000

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Here's the first pass at box office this weekend, gang.

Thunderbolts had a $75 Million opening domestically, which puts it right in line with the estimate of $75 Million (good call from Variety!). The Amateur is now dropping, and miraculously Rachel Zegler's Snow White is still hanging on to 300 theaters (how many screens?!?!) nationwide in her attempt to break $90 Million domestically for that mega-budget bomb.

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The Numbers - Weekend Box Office Chart for September 5, 2025

Weekend Domestic Box Office Chart for the weekend of September 5, 2025
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