Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Why “of all people”? As he himself has told us repeatedly, except for one or two exceptions, he doesn’t watch new releases, much less go to the cinema to see them. In terms of firsthand experience of any of this stuff, he is probably the least qualified poster here.

Because he presents the actual numbers…so there’s no need to try to hint he’s a moron.

And that seems to be happening more and more when the same handful of people don’t like what the numbers say.

We can dispense Kleenex if it’s “too hard” to handle

I hope your not counting on retiring on your Disney stock this week either

First hand experience? In what? Reading published box office receipts?

The “least qualified” are those that make excuses for failures…like the cost of COVID masks

And that bombs will “make” tons of money on streams with dropping subs…where no one is watching them ANYWAY

 

[Disney Irish]

You are explaining the difference between screens and theaters…a concept that NO ONE here was confused about…as evidenced by the responses.

That’s just a distraction

You need a break from your keyboard/swipey screen…

And since that often happens to me…don’t bother disputing my authority on this subject.

Its not a distraction at all. Its clarifying a posters incorrect use of numbers so others don't make the same mistake, and its clear that he was confused about them even if others understood this point. And really if you stopped trying to battle for a second you'd see that nowhere in my post did I dispute his premise, I just corrected his use of terms and numbers.

If you ask me the direct question on if Snow should be playing on less screens to allow Minecraft to play on more, I'd probably say yes.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That's right, man. No one around here is ever confused about those things. This was from two weeks ago:

Ok…nobody here…now

Boy you really went ga-zinga there

 

[brideck]

Ok…nobody here…now

Boy you really went ga-zinga there

This is a message board, not a real-time chat. Why would I only be writing for the benefit of the people that happen to be here at the moment?

 

[Disney Irish]

Because he presents the actual numbers…so there’s no need to try to hint he’s a moron.

And that seems to be happening more and more when the same handful of people don’t like what the numbers say.

We can dispense Kleenex if it’s “too hard” to handle

I hope your not counting on retiring on your Disney stock this week either

First hand experience? In what? Reading published box office receipts?

The “least qualified” are those that make excuses for failures…like the cost of COVID masks

And that bombs will “make” tons of money on streams with dropping subs…where no one is watching them ANYWAY

Except those numbers aren't representative of the point he is trying to make. He is trying to talk about screens, not theaters.

Snow White is playing in 3750 theaters across an unknown number of screens.
Minecraft is playing in 4263 across an unknown number of screens.

You figure that all 3750 theaters playing Snow White are also playing Minecraft, but not all 4623 theaters playing Minecraft are playing Snow White. So its not like there are more theaters available to play Minecraft that aren't already that are only playing Snow White.

Again its a misunderstanding of the numbers thinking they represent one metric when they actually represent a completely different metric.

 

[LittleBuford]

Because he presents the actual numbers…so there’s no need to try to hint he’s a moron.

He’s anything but a moron. He knows exactly what he’s doing.

I hope your not counting on retiring on your Disney stock this week either

I have no financial entanglements with the company whatsoever beyond what I willingly pay them for entertainment and merchandise. As we’ve discussed before, you give Disney many more of your dollars than I do.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I'm not sure which person you're trying to label as "clown shoes" here, but I've learned long ago that TP doesn't really want to know any better. Most of my posts in this space are so that other people reading along can potentially know better in the future.

The only one who is intent on making nonsensical “responses” to every post…which has gone really off the rails of late

Don’t take my word for it…it’s fairly obvious today

 

[brideck]

The only one who is intent on making nonsensical “responses” to every post…which has gone really off the rails of late

Don’t take my word for it…it’s fairly obvious today

I really wish you'd use proper nouns in your posts. They are very hard to read and get any meaning out of at all.

 

[FrontierSpirit]

I want content that respects the heart of a franchise and honors the original vision.

I want that classic fairy-tale magic, the romance, the “Someday My Prince Will Come” fantasy where a strong, heroic prince sweeps in.

Where did that disappear to? Where is the strong masculine Prince Charming?

We girls love the strong masculine Prince that saves us. I do, not every story but I wanted him in this one. Why didn’t Disney deliver?

Instead, we get a lecture on leadership and empowerment that felt more like a TED Talk than an escape.

Snow White is a ‘progressive sermon’ that ditched the charm for a soapbox and nobody went.

women (me) can be a badass and romantic— Disney flattened Snow White into a one-note powerhouse.

Cast actors who sell the vision, not their own agendas, and don’t mess with what worked just to push a message.

Give us the magic we’re paying for.. maybe too strong. The magic we hope for, we wish for.

sometimes even the fiercest heroine, scratch that.. sometimes I want to be saved by a prince while I’m engaged in the magic of a movie.. and that’s okay. It’s why we show up.

We girls sometimes want to sing “Someday my Prince will come” in a packed movie theater.

It’s fun. This new Disney film was not fun.

I don’t always want to be a girl boss (except on Tuesday) and I never want to be lectured and Disney has been exceptional at that recently.

 

[LittleBuford]

I want content that respects the heart of a franchise and honors the original vision.

I want that classic fairy-tale magic, the romance, the “Someday My Prince Will Come” fantasy where a strong, heroic prince sweeps in.

Where did that disappear to? Where is the strong masculine Prince Charming?

We girls love the strong masculine Prince that saves us. I do, not every story but I wanted him in this one. Why didn’t Disney deliver?

Instead, we get a lecture on leadership and empowerment that felt more like a TED Talk than an escape.

Snow White is a ‘progressive sermon’ that ditched the charm for a soapbox and nobody went.

women (me) can be a badass and romantic— Disney flattened Snow White into a one-note powerhouse.

Cast actors who sell the vision, not their own agendas, and don’t mess with what worked just to push a message.

Give us the magic we’re paying for.. maybe too strong. The magic we hope for, we wish for.

sometimes even the fiercest heroine, scratch that.. sometimes I want to be saved by a prince while I’m engaged in the magic of a movie.. and that’s okay. It’s why we show up.

We girls sometimes want to sing “Someday my Prince will come” in a packed movie theater.

It’s fun. This new Disney film was not fun.

I don’t always want to be a girl boss (except on Tuesday) and I never want to be lectured and Disney has been exceptional at that recently.

Jonathan is strong, masculine, and saves Snow White by waking her from death with love’s kiss. He’s also very handsome to boot. Have you seen the film? If not, I suggest you do, as it sounds as if you’d actually enjoy the romantic elements quite a bit.

 

[Disney Irish]

Back on topic of Disney box office. Cap4 is about to cross $200M domestic. Still a disappointment for Marvel, so don't think this is some way to distract from that, just keeping things on topic to give updates.

And just so some posters don't think I'm trying to derail the conversation, Snow White is a bomb, a huge bomb, and will still be a bomb tomorrow, and next week, and next month.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I want the postmodern fun of the 1990s and 2000s, when skilled directors walked the line between respecting and poking fun at the silliness of the source material. I want whimsy and wit, a light touch and a twinkle in the eye.

 

[Casper Gutman]

So is everyone looking forward to the Skibidi Toilet movie? Michael Bay bought the rights and we’re sure getting it now.

 

[Chi84]

I want content that respects the heart of a franchise and honors the original vision.

I want that classic fairy-tale magic, the romance, the “Someday My Prince Will Come” fantasy where a strong, heroic prince sweeps in.

Where did that disappear to? Where is the strong masculine Prince Charming?

We girls love the strong masculine Prince that saves us. I do, not every story but I wanted him in this one. Why didn’t Disney deliver?

Instead, we get a lecture on leadership and empowerment that felt more like a TED Talk than an escape.

Snow White is a ‘progressive sermon’ that ditched the charm for a soapbox and nobody went.

women (me) can be a badass and romantic— Disney flattened Snow White into a one-note powerhouse.

Cast actors who sell the vision, not their own agendas, and don’t mess with what worked just to push a message.

Give us the magic we’re paying for.. maybe too strong. The magic we hope for, we wish for.

sometimes even the fiercest heroine, scratch that.. sometimes I want to be saved by a prince while I’m engaged in the magic of a movie.. and that’s okay. It’s why we show up.

We girls sometimes want to sing “Someday my Prince will come” in a packed movie theater.

It’s fun. This new Disney film was not fun.

I don’t always want to be a girl boss (except on Tuesday) and I never want to be lectured and Disney has been exceptional at that recently.

Was there really a lecture on leadership and empowerment in the movie?

 

[Casper Gutman]

People say they don’t want to be lectured to and then they make Barbie a smash hit.

 

[LittleBuford]

Was there really a lecture on leadership and empowerment in the movie?

As one who has watched it, I can confirm that there wasn’t. For most of the film, Snow White’s aim is to restore her father (whom she believes to be out of the kingdom) to the throne.

 

[FrontierSpirit]

lovedPeople say they don’t want to be lectured to and then they make Barbie a smash hit.

I loved Barbie and I think it’s becoming apparent Disney would have burnt Barbie to the ground. We all should be thankful Disney didn’t touch Barbie.
Whew!

 

[Chi84]

I loved Barbie and I think it’s becoming apparent Disney would have burnt Barbie to the ground. We all should be thankful Disney didn’t touch Barbie.
Whew!

So what is it you like about Disney?

 

[Chi84]

I loved Barbie and I think it’s becoming apparent Disney would have burnt Barbie to the ground. We all should be thankful Disney didn’t touch Barbie.
Whew!

Did you agree with America Ferrara’s monologue in Barbie? There is another poster who thought it was a lengthy lecture.

 

[FrontierSpirit]

So what is it you like about Disney?

For Snow White?
I wanted to sing “some day my prince will come” my mom used to have this wind up Snow White figurine that would play that melody.
I wanted to be swept off my feet by Prince Charming and sing that song in a dark theater.

Swept into Fantasy, just didn’t get it this time and was a major let down for me.