Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Tha Realest]

I would agree with this in general, however I suspect she'll be up for more movie roles in the near future. As external "drama" for this single movie aside, she is still fairly well praised in this movie and the several others she's been in.

Cool. Please let us know when this materializes.

 

[Casper Gutman]

It’s very clear what that article is. A bunch of highly-paid Disney execs who made a series of bottomlessly stupid decisions about the movie are frantically trying to divert attention from their culpability by drawing a target on someone that a lot of people are already primed to hate. It’s utterly unforgivable behavior.

This thread likes hating Disney execs - well, it’s very warranted here.

 

[Tha Realest]

It’s very clear what that article is. A bunch of highly-paid Disney execs who made a series of bottomlessly stupid decisions about the movie are frantically trying to divert attention from their culpability by drawing a target on someone that a lot of people are already primed to hate. It’s utterly unforgivable behavior.

This thread likes hating Disney execs - well, it’s very warranted here.

No disagreement here. Marc Webb should never be given a big budget again. Whoever did the SFX should be run out like Victoria Alonzo. Whoever greenlit the entire concept of the movie should be gone (I think he is). And maybe whoever thought it was a good idea that a screenwriter whose biggest claim to fame was Secretary should write a Disney Princess film should also be shown the door. But in keeping with the times, Zegler has her own agency and chose to make numerous public pronouncements that adversely affected the marketing for this film in a very calculable way, and that should also not be excused.

 

[Disney Irish]

Cool. Please let us know when this materializes.

I'm not her Agent, nor am I responsible for tracking her career.

If you're that interested in her future prospects you can follow it yourself.

 

[Trauma]

Zegler is toxic. She will find work again but not on a film of this budget.

That or a career on Broadway, where they don’t mind her toxic behavior.

 

[easyrowrdw]

As others have said, if there's an agenda at play with the Variety article, I think it would be from executives. Ultimately they're responsible for the movie and if the blame can be laid on Zegler, it is better for them.

That doesn't mean the information isn't true though. You also have quotes from other execs and agents talking about how Disney did a bad job. It's not just about Zegler.

 

[Trauma]

As others have said, if there's an agenda at play with the Variety article, I think it would be from executives. Ultimately they're responsible for the movie and if the blame can be laid on Zegler, it is better for them.

That doesn't mean the information isn't true though. You also have quotes from other execs and agents talking about how Disney did a bad job. It's not just about Zegler.

Disney did a horrible job. It doesn’t excuse Zegler taking a flamethrower to the project.

 

[Chi84]

I heard that Mattel is angry at Disney because the Snow White dolls are already going on sale.

Oh come on now. Not even Disney could have brought that character to life!

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I would agree with this in general, however I suspect she'll be up for more movie roles in the near future. As external "drama" for this single movie aside, she is still fairly well praised in this movie and the several others she's been in.

I think she’ll eventually get another chance but I’ll be surprised if we see her on the big screen again in the next 5 years, 2-3 years for public sentiment to change and then 2 years for her next movies filming, editing, etc.

Her box office record is heavily against her at this point, her talent gets praised in every movie but she simply doesn’t have box office pull.

 

[TalkingHead]

It’s very clear what that article is. A bunch of highly-paid Disney execs who made a series of bottomlessly stupid decisions about the movie are frantically trying to divert attention from their culpability by drawing a target on someone that a lot of people are already primed to hate. It’s utterly unforgivable behavior.

This thread likes hating Disney execs - well, it’s very warranted here.

Mr Confirmation Bias strikes again

 

[Farerb]

I think she’ll eventually get another chance but I’ll be surprised if we see her on the big screen again in the next 5 years, 2-3 years for public sentiment to change and then 2 years for her next movies filming, editing, etc.

Her box office record is heavily against her at this point, her talent gets praised in every movie but she simply doesn’t have box office pull.

Now someone will mention The Hunger Games, which made approximately half of what the last Jennifer Lawrence Hunger Games movie did.

I'm surprised her insufferable fans on Twitter don't go and support her, I guess they are just a loud minority.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I think she’ll eventually get another chance but I’ll be surprised if we see her on the big screen again in the next 5 years, 2-3 years for public sentiment to change and then 2 years for her next movies filming, editing, etc.

Her box office record is heavily against her at this point, her talent gets praised in every movie but she simply doesn’t have box office pull.

NO star has box office pull anymore. None. Tom Cruise seemed to be the sole exception, but that’s fading fast.

 

[Disney Irish]

I think she’ll eventually get another chance but I’ll be surprised if we see her on the big screen again in the next 5 years, 2-3 years for public sentiment to change and then 2 years for her next movies filming, editing, etc.

Her box office record is heavily against her at this point, her talent gets praised in every movie but she simply doesn’t have box office pull.

It depends on what you consider "big screen" movies, not all movies on the "big screen" are $200M budget movies. There are lots of small and mid budget films where an actor can get work and still be released to the box office.

Also its rare to be a "box office draw" these days as no one seems to be able to do it anymore.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Mr Confirmation Bias strikes again

Ah yes, I’m the only guy here subject to confirmation bias.

Do you use critical thinking abilities when you read articles, Talking? Are you aware of the very strong industry bias of Variety? I bet you are when it’s helpful to your point because you’re a clever fellow.

 

[Disney Irish]

NO star has box office pull anymore. None. Tom Cruise seemed to be the sole exception, but that’s fading fast.

Tom can't even do it anymore, at least not like he use to. So that fading fast has already faded in my opinion.

 

[Disney Irish]

Now someone will mention The Hunger Games, which made approximately half of what the last Jennifer Lawrence Hunger Games movie did.

I'm surprised her insufferable fans on Twitter don't go and support her, I guess they are just a loud minority.

Now is that her fault or is that a lack of JLaw and franchise fatigue? But I'm sure you'll only blame her and not any of the other reasons.

But we'll be able to see next year when the next prequel comes out.

 

[Farerb]

Now is that her fault or is that a lack of JLaw and franchise fatigue? But I'm sure you'll blame her and not any of the other reasons.

But we'll be able to see next year when the next prequel comes out.

But I didn't blame her... She just wasn't enough to get people to be interested in the franchise again.

 

[Casper Gutman]

But I didn't blame her... She just wasn't enough to get people to be interested in the franchise again.

How have Lawrence’s recent films been doing? Passengers, Dark Pheonix, Mother!, and No Hard Feelings really proving that star power?

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Tom can't even do it anymore, at least not like he use to. So that fading fast has already faded in my opinion.

There has been a pretty big drought of new stars, every “big” name draw I thought of was middle age or higher… Tom Cruise, Tom Hanks, Harrison Ford, Jim Carrey, Julia Robert’s, Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, Will Smith, Keanu Reaves, Sandra … all middle age or older.

The only young(er) stars that come to mind are Tom Holland, Zendaya, Chris Pratt, and Ryan Reynolds.

 

[Disney Irish]

But I didn't blame her... She just wasn't enough to get people to be interested in the franchise again.

This is a straw man argument. As she wasn't being used as the draw, she wasn't even top billing, she was second line on the call sheet.

The IP was being used as the draw and its clear that franchise has run it course.