Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Disney Irish]

That’s true…and that’s why it’s the real sleeper of the whole series

But that may be the biggest problem

If you have the time…watch the icons unearthed series…they’re excellent

Anyway…the MCU one paits a pretty good case that guardians have them the false idea that anything would play…and that how can be looked at as a big mistake

Maybe, or as I've been saying for awhile now, the general public comes in and out of these non-team up movies based on the characters that seem interesting to them. So the expectation that every movie has to do outrageous at the box office was falsely set when many ended up doing better than initially expected.

But hey this is a on-going debate that you and I have had many times. The MCU is not going anywhere anytime soon. So we'll be able to have this debate many more times in the future.

 

[Agent H]

I think it was DisneyIrishBruh, but yeah something like that.

It’s super funny to me to imagine everyone over there calling each other “bruh” like a bunch of surfers it does make sense though you guys are from California.

 

[Disney Irish]

It’s super funny to me to imagine everyone over there calling each other “bruh” like a bunch of surfers it does make sense though you guys are from California.

It was an interesting time.

 

[Agent H]

It was… but you brought Cinematicfusion back and that individual can’t stand you.

“somehow cinematic fusion returned”

 

[MagicMouseFan]

“somehow cinematic fusion returned”

stick with the films Agent H.
Captain America didn’t perform how we both thought it would.
Gotta get it back with Thunderbolts.

 

[Agent H]

stick with the films Agent H.
Captain America didn’t perform how we both thought it would.
Gotta get it back with Thunderbolts.

Sorry you’re right Back on topic.

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

Dude, nobody knew or had a clue who the Guardians of the Galaxy were and those movies did pretty well.

This. ^

 

[LittleBuford]

I need to know if it’s bloody and gross before I see it. I skip those.

Just saw it. It’s bloody but very cartoony—so silly and farfetched that I can’t see anyone being seriously grossed out by it. My partner and I enjoyed it, though it’s certainly not a must-see.

 

[Agent H]

Just saw it. It’s bloody but very cartoony—so silly and farfetched that I can’t see anyone being seriously grossed out by it. My partner and I enjoyed it, though it’s certainly not a must-see.

Would you say it’s worse than Deadpool and wolverine?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Maybe, or as I've been saying for awhile now, the general public comes in and out of these non-team up movies based on the characters that seem interesting to them. So the expectation that every movie has to do outrageous at the box office was falsely set when many ended up doing better than initially expected.

But hey this is a on-going debate that you and I have had many times. The MCU is not going anywhere anytime soon. So we'll be able to have this debate many more times in the future.

I would agree…but…

Though I will say they could skip the intro movies all together and just hit the ground running post-Secret Wars and do a smashing of the universes. We already know that Monica Rambeau was stuck in the "Mutant" universe at the end of Marvels (or if you didn't see it now you do, sorry spoiler). So if the events of Secret Wars has that universe coming into Earth-616, then they can just skip the intro movies and start with X-Men similar to how they skipped Peter's intro story for Spider-Man.

So we'll see what happens post-Secret Wars with Mutants.

This right here. You’re speaking another language the public does not understand

And the public is DUMB…

Why does that matter? Because Disney is a conglomerate and just wants the easy money. That is why it matters.

It’s not an arthouse…we can act like it’s “cinema” and that it “isn’t going anywhere”…but then the reality comes in.

The same debates we always have in parks:
Results based business.

They don’t care about thematic cohesion…
Money

and they don’t care about “projects D+ wealth…maybe…eventually”
Money only…now

NYSE: DIS

They’re not nearly as stable as you think. It’s all about the now.

Which is how they bombed out Star Wars to a crater the size of Nagasaki…

And how they can do it with marvel too.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Though I will say they could skip the intro movies all together and just hit the ground running post-Secret Wars and do a smashing of the universes. We already know that Monica Rambeau was stuck in the "Mutant" universe at the end of Marvels (or if you didn't see it now you do, sorry spoiler). So if the events of Secret Wars has that universe coming into Earth-616, then they can just skip the intro movies and start with X-Men similar to how they skipped Peter's intro story for Spider-Man.

So we'll see what happens post-Secret Wars with Mutants.

Hey bruh…you’re self quoting…

 

[Agent H]

Hey bruh…you’re self quoting…

That’s @Disney Irish bruh to you!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Would you say it’s worse than Deadpool and wolverine?

But that’s the approach with Deadpool…

Winter soldier was the best, most “grounded” MCU movie…

If what Buf says is correct…this won’t line up with that.

It’s basically also a writedown at this point based on the box office…so the people are speaking

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don’t know, the trailers being more well-received than Brave New World, each trailer at or above 95%, makes me believe people care and are willing to see it if reviews are strong and in its favor.

We we shall see

Brave new world is also unofficial a flop at this point…a loser…

So because some e-clicks on trailers is received “better”…doesn’t make the next one a smash. I think break even is a safe prediction right now…if it’s good it would probably exceed that.

Comic book fans don’t carry the MCU…it’s the buzz and word of mouth amongst normal people

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

In this life or a previous one?

…I get a strong “Rasputin” vibe from my previous one

 

[Agent H]

But that’s the approach with Deadpool…

Winter soldier was the best, most “grounded” MCU movie…

If what Buf says is correct…this won’t line up with that.

It’s basically also a writedown at this point based on the box office…so the people are speaking

1. Got it thanks 2.what does that have to do with the monkey movie? 3. I don’t really care about that if I see the movie it will be at home after my brothers go to sleep.

 

[LittleBuford]

Would you say it’s worse than Deadpool and wolverine?

No, it’s much more cartoony than that.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No, it’s much more cartoony than that.

The trailers looked amateurish cgi to me…so that scans

 

[Disney Irish]

Hey bruh…you’re self quoting…

Yep

 

[Disney Irish]

I would agree…but…


This right here. You’re speaking another language the public does not understand

And the public is DUMB…

Why does that matter? Because Disney is a conglomerate and just wants the easy money. That is why it matters.

It’s not an arthouse…we can act like it’s “cinema” and that it “isn’t going anywhere”…but then the reality comes in.

The same debates we always have in parks:
Results based business.

They don’t care about thematic cohesion…
Money

and they don’t care about “projects D+ wealth…maybe…eventually”
Money only…now

NYSE: DIS

They’re not nearly as stable as you think. It’s all about the now.

Which is how they bombed out Star Wars to a crater the size of Nagasaki…

And how they can do it with marvel too.

Maybe, but it’s not ALL about the money, and to think otherwise doesn’t understand the cinematic side of the industry. It’s a balance, and yeah sometimes the pendulum swings to one side over the other, but both sides are there.