Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

TP2000

Well-Known Member
Disco is not dead. It lives on in my personal music collection ;) Funk and Soul also. ;)

In my community, Disco never died. But just to clarify, on Saturday afternoons I used to half-watch American Bandstand but then immediately after I would watch intently Soul Train. (That was the Seattle timetable for Saturdays, AB at Noon and then Soul Train at 1pm, I assume it was the same nationwide?) Soul Train is where I would see, and then practice, the new steps and moves that were most important.

Imagine that, a Swedish gay man in Seattle replicating (not half badly) the moves seen earlier that day on Soul Train.

There's a reason my dance card was full during the Ford and Carter years. And it wasn't just because of my looks. :cool:

I didn’t realize Lutefisk was a dish in other Scandinavian nations, I thought it was limited to us crazy Norwegians. My grandparents loved it but I’ve still never tried it as I could never get beyond the smell.

I'm pretty sure Norwegians invented it. And it may be why Stockholm eventually agreed to let Norway formally separate from the union. 🤔

But my Swedish grandparents made Lutefisk semi-regularly. And it was definitely a staple in the church basement after the service at our big Lutheran church in downtown Seattle circa 1967. Sitting in giant chafing dishes, heated by blue flame pots of some mystery chemical. I actually didn't mind it as a kid, but when I tried it as an adult it was awful. What were we thinking?

Sounds like you grew up in the same small town I did, except I was a state over in North Dakota, for all the talk of middle America being less accepting I never witnessed it, my big sister was really into acting and drama and had quite a few gay friends, her crew was hilarious so I always tagged along and hung out with them wherever they’d go and never saw anyone treat them differently than anyone else. I’m sure there were exceptions but I never witnessed it.

There seems to be a theme here. I grew up in a Scandinavian community in Seattle, @Minnesota disney fan is obviously from Minnesota, and you grew up in North Dakota. We're all from solid, northern stock; likely Scandinavians and Germanic tribes now wrapped in the red, white and blue. And even though we were alive during the dark ages of the 1960's and 70's, we experienced loving and polite communities who weren't out tearing people down for being a tad different.

Our latter 20th Century life experiences might have been different had we been in the big cities of the East Coast at that time, majority Italian and Irish Catholics, or in the Deep South as they struggled with racial civil rights issues.

As I said earlier, I'm very thankful for having the youth and experiences I had. I'm forever grateful to God that he graced me the honor of being born an American. And I wouldn't trade my younger years for anything, even if Steve "the family man" got the promotion before me (which was wrong, but par for the course back then, and I've moved on).
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Then you're not really judging movies at all, are you? You're literally letting the accumulation of everyone else do the judging for you.
Well I’m not a movie critic…

and this is a Disney board. So from that perspective…what matters? Really only the money generated and cross promoting potential that it creates. Bottomline.

But no…I don’t have some lame podcast or vlog…like half the frequenters here…which is quite sad actually. So my opinions are in the tiny little empty space between my ears

So if the idea is discussion/comparison…there should be a scoreboard of sorts. At least for me.
 

Tony the Tigger

Well-Known Member
The weird thing is I usually love this type of “grab some popcorn, turn your brain off, and just enjoy the ride” movie… the Jurassic Park movies (after the amazing original) have all been fairly bad but I love them, same with the first several Transformers movies, they aren’t good but they are super fun.

For whatever reason I’ve just never found the FF series fun, I’ve seen bits and pieces of most of them on TV, streaming, airplanes, etc but never seem to make it beyond 10-20 minutes before I’m bored and looking for something else to watch, just not my cup of tea.

I caught a few minutes of F+F Tokyo Drift when I turned on the TV in a hotel room, and that’s all I ever need to see. Brian and I still make fun of it. It reminded me of spinning my Big Wheel in the 70’s. 🤣

There’s a difference between what I call a rollercoaster movie (like Jurassic or Cap) where you’re going for a fun ride, but don’t expect it to be life-changing, vs. something just dumb as a box of rocks.

I am not a bro. I do not have to spend my life desperately evaluating or proving my level of masculinity. The idea that it’s tied to getting my car to swerve or whatever is just hilarious. Maybe that’s part of the problem here - too many people still self-evaluate via status symbols. That’s where genuine masculinity crosses over into toxic masculinity for me, and I can’t do anything but ridicule it. If I don’t prize what the movie is chasing for 2 hours, or relate in any way, why would I be entertained?

Re: Transformers: I just never bothered, as I recall. I may have been bored with the first one, not sure. I think Shia LaBeouf was in it, unless I’m thinking of something else.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

Well-Known Member
Or you just could not, no harm in just not taking a jab for no reason.
I’m torn on this, overall I agree but sometimes the little jabs are hilarious and they’re part of what make the forums so fun, other times they spark more discussion. Less is probably better but I’d hate to see the snark leave completely, it would be a boring place if we took it too seriously.

Explosions that look like fireworks warehouses exploding? Passing up-tilted cameras between the legs of women in skirts? Boring and trite action pacing and set pieces? Bay's movie-making vocabulary is like three words long.
Totally agree with this, ironically it’s also why I like Michael Bays movies so much, he’s all about action and spectacle, the perfect popcorn flick director, I’m glad he doesn’t stick to realism because what he does is big, mindless, and fun.
 

Tony the Tigger

Well-Known Member
If someone enjoys a movie, that’s their opinion. There is no right or wrong as to what’s good or bad. I think people get a little too into asserting their opinions as correct regarding both movies and attractions on this site. (“This doesn’t belong there!” “This isn’t good storytelling!”) If you like it, then it’s “good.” If you don’t, then it’s “bad.”

I’ve lived with the bro crowd telling me disco music was “bad” for years, yet there’s more musicianship, real instruments, and better vocals than a lot of what’s on the radio today.

So I take what others say as good or bad with a half grain of salt. Love what you love.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

Well-Known Member
That's gonna be a great matchup. Thursday 8:00pm ET USA Vs. Canada
I hate the growing animosity between our always friendly relationship but can’t wait for this game and hope it mirrors the intensity of the first.

I’m torn on what should happen during the Canadian national anthem, I hope the crowd is respectful and stays silent but it’s Boston so I’m not counting on it, boos during a national Anthem are super tacky but they also amp up the intensity so I kind of hope it happens, I wouldn’t mind seeing a few more fights to start the game and some more huge hits.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
Its one thing to be snarky, heck I'm snarky, its another to just take jabs and potshots at posters. We had a lively discussion in this thread for many pages with no name calling or jabs being thrown until that started.
People don't like that. It's like trying to talk to a group of people when a kid runs in, kicks you and then taunts you to go after him.
 

Minnesota disney fan

Well-Known Member
But my Swedish grandparents made Lutefisk semi-regularly
LOL had to laugh at this one. I live in Lutefisk country. But I came here from Tennessee. There is a big population of Norwegians here and the Lutheran Church is very active. I would never, never even try Lutefisk, especially since I learned how they make it. Ick! We have lots of Norwegian events, including the beautiful Santa Lucia event close to Christmas. It has been interesting going from one culture (deep South) to the extreme North. But I love it.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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LOL had to laugh at this one. I live in Lutefisk country. But I came here from Tennessee. There is a big population of Norwegians here and the Lutheran Church is very active. I would never, never even try Lutefisk, especially since I learned how they make it. Ick! We have lots of Norwegian events, including the beautiful Santa Lucia event close to Christmas. It has been interesting going from one culture (deep South) to the extreme North. But I love it.
Hopefully you’ve had Lefse to redeem your opinion of Norwegian food culture.

I like to think Lutefisk was created out of necessity, lack of salt to preserve fish, and Lefse was created out of taste.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
And yet more stylish than anything Marvel has done in 30+ features. Wild isn’t it
Dunno, I thought Endgame was way more stylish than any of the Bad Boy movies.

Bay is a one trick pony, big explosions. It ain't a Bay movie without one, its his calling card if you will. Its fairly well known in Hollywood, you want big explosions in your movie especially in the climax you hire Bay. You want something other than explosions, you don't hire Bay and hire anyone else.
 

DKampy

Well-Known Member
IF&F movies are definitely in the same category as that for me -- at least from Fast Five on.
You have convinced me I should possibly give F& F another shot… I have already thought that…as I have heard others say the same.., Truth is I have only seen the first one in it’s entirety… the others I have only seen portions here and there through my brother in law as he loves the franchise… the only other movies he watches is in the Halloween franchise…,he is one of those macho guys…. There is nothing wrong with that, but his always feels forced… the only interest he seems to have is sports, cars, and

I have also agreed with a lot of your takes… including up post which you talked about A Complete Unknown… I had been putting it off as I am not a huge Bob Dylan fan and figured I would find it overrated as it is probably a standard biopic… it is in many ways, but one that is well made… it deserves all the awards attention it is getting … and as you mentioned all of the actors in the film are phenomenal
 

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