Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yes, well, you’re all grown up. New little kids are growing up now, and they deserve their own memories, and especially memories that represent more of them - not just the white ones, who are no longer so dominant.

The 1989 Classic is still available on vhs for all the little kids

 

[brideck]

The 1989 Classic is still available on vhs for all the little kids

Where is your Betamax player?

 

[Disney Irish]

Thank you, that's kind. But honestly, it's all water under the bridge now.

At this point, it just makes me chuckle. I made a good living for myself, inherited some family stuff, and am comfortably retired. I wasn't chased around the desk like some secretaries were at the time, I wasn't told to use a different bathroom in the basement like Blacks were, and I wasn't told I would not be seated in a swanky restaurant or told by the bank I could not buy a house in a certain neighborhood.

I get it, to Americans under 40 being gay fifty years ago must sound like it was horrible. It wasn't. It was far better and easier than being Black in Alabama, or a pretty girl in an office full of jerks, or a Jew trying to move into a restricted neighborhood like La Jolla. It all had its very funny moments, and it built great humor and character.

And I bet Steve the family man who got the job in '79 ended up getting divorced anyway. I never had to pay alimony.

I'm glad you lived an idyllic life, others weren't so lucky, so maybe acknowledge that it wasn't all sunshine and roses for everyone in your community during that time. Or maybe you forget leaders like Harvey Milk who was assassinated during that time.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don't think $500M is farfetched, I don't even think $600M is out of the realm of possibilities. With no competition for the next month it'll be interesting to watch.

This honestly might be one of the few times where the Cinemascore might be less than accurate.

Lack of competition has been a big benefit to the studio for the last year or so…

…but I wonder how the economic conditions may start to affect that?

Everything “good” is shrinking…everything “bad” is going up on the ground for most of your movie going market

 

[brideck]

A B- usually means a 2.9 multiplier. So, likely to just break even.

2.9x would get it somewhere around $550m world-wide. Not too shabby.

 

[Disney Irish]

Lack of competition has been a big benefit to the studio for the last year or so…

…but I wonder how the economic conditions may start to affect that?

Everything “good” is shrinking…everything “bad” is going up on the ground for most of your movie going market

Yeah don't know, like I said its going to be interesting to watch.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Disco is not dead. It lives on in my personal music collection Funk and Soul also.

 

[Disney Irish]

Disco is not dead. It lives on in my personal music collection Funk and Soul also.

As long as you're still rocking a pair of these too -

 

[Disstevefan1]

As long as you're still rocking a pair of these too -

My ancle high boots with the zippers did have heels but not that high and were not shiny I did love those shoes and even had them re soled at the shoe repair shop. (google it kids).

 

[Disney Irish]

My ancle high boots with the zippers did have heels but not that high and were not shiny I did love those shoes and even had them re soled at the shoe repair shop. (google it kids).

Yes, but did you have gold fish in your heels? All the cool kids did....

 

[Disstevefan1]

Yes, but did you have gold fish in your heels? All the cool kids did....

Oh I see that now! Ha! No I did not.... I was never that groovy.

 

[Disney Irish]

Oh I see that now! Ha! No I did not.... I was never that groovy.

And here I thought you were one of the cool kids....

 

[Willmark]

From earlier up thread- in real life, hockey players are Canadian, if anything. As I recall at least the plurality are, something like 41% of all US based teams in the NHL are Canadian (off the top of my head that is. ETA: yep according to this at least: https://thehockeywriters.com/current-nhl-players-by-country) I’d have to look up the makeup of the 7 or so Canadian based teams...Point being its Canada's sport, or was until last week. We'll see what Thursday brings.

Who wins the U.S.-Canada rematch? Goalie confidence, X factors, keys to victory

Team USA won the first matchup 3-1. Will Canada get its revenge? Or will the hosts make it a clean sweep in Boston on Thursday?

www.espn.com

Go back to the late 1970s and it was almost all Canadians (or at least the majority ~75%), but since that time it has been gaining more and more US players. Not quite there yet but the US has been narrowing the gap since the Vancouver Olympics at the very least.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

As a Swedish-American myself, I wonder if he escaped the childhood of Lutefisk dinners?

I didn’t realize Lutefisk was a dish in other Scandinavian nations, I thought it was limited to us crazy Norwegians. My grandparents loved it but I’ve still never tried it as I could never get beyond the smell.

Before the introduction of AI Overview, the top result would be a featured snippet of an actual website. That snippet wasn't always correct, of course, but it tended to be more useful than whatever (mis)information is being spewed out now. But yes, I agree that it's never been enough just to rely on a quick search result without bothering to verify its accuracy.

This is good to know, I’ve always glanced over the first couple results and as long as they matched ran with them also, I’ve noticed a change in the look of the results but didn’t realize it had gone full AI and was less accurate now.

I was in high school in the 60's and we had gay kids, and who cared? We all treated each other the same. No one teased them, no comments were made. I guess times they have a changed!

Yes, it was a rural school near an air force base, so we had the base kids too. Really, it was like that and I'm glad I lived in a time when that was possible. I know not everyone did.

Sounds like you grew up in the same small town I did, except I was a state over in North Dakota, for all the talk of middle America being less accepting I never witnessed it, my big sister was really into acting and drama and had quite a few gay friends, her crew was hilarious so I always tagged along and hung out with them wherever they’d go and never saw anyone treat them differently than anyone else. I’m sure there were exceptions but I never witnessed it.

It wasn’t until I moved to Utah in the 90s I realized that wasn’t always the case. I worked as a server in my high school years and always worked Monday nights since I wasn’t LDS (that’s when the church has designated family time) and can still distinctly remember when the LGBT club started reserving our banquet hall every Monday night because most of them weren’t welcome at their own families family night, I don’t think I’ll ever forget serving them and the inner conflicts I’d have from feeling sorry about their situation while also also laughing along with them because they had so much fun at dinner.

I hope that’s become a far rarer thing now than it was then.

 

[Disney Irish]

Sounds like you grew up in the same small town I did, except I was a state over in North Dakota, for all the talk of middle America being less accepting I never witnessed it, my big sister was really into acting and drama and had quite a few gay friends, her crew was hilarious so I always tagged along and hung out with them wherever they’d go and never saw anyone treat them differently than anyone else. I’m sure there were exceptions but I never witnessed it.

It wasn’t until I moved to Utah in the 90s I realized that wasn’t always the case. I worked as a server in my high school years and always worked Monday nights since I wasn’t LDS (that’s when the church has designated family time) and can still distinctly remember when the LGBT club started reserving our banquet hall every Monday night because most of them weren’t welcome at their own families family night, I don’t think I’ll ever forget serving them and the inner conflicts I’d have from feeling sorry about their situation while also also laughing along with them because they had so much fun at dinner.

I hope that’s become a far rarer thing now than it was then.

I think this is an important point, many people often think that their experiences in life is how everyone else experiences their lives and this couldn't be further from the truth, and I think this goes both ways by the way both positive and negative. I think we need to be aware that our own experiences are unique to us and us alone and not universal to everyone else, this I would think lead to a lot more empathy around the world.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think this is an important point, many people often think that their experiences in life is how everyone else experiences their lives and this couldn't be further from the truth, and I think this goes both ways by the way both positive and negative. I think we need to be aware that our own experiences are unique to us and us alone and not universal to everyone else, this I would think lead to a lot more empathy around the world.

Indeed…this if very true.

And back to movies:

Some are good and some just empirically suck.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

There is a WHOLE range between "good" and "suck" that you're missing.

They don’t add sarcasm to the water where you live, huh?

 

[Disney Irish]

They don’t add sarcasm to the water where you live, huh?

Always with the jabs, huh chief?

And we were doing so well too.

 

[brideck]

And we were doing so well too.

I'm sure large swaths of this are liable to be moved to the purple ocean of non-existence eventually, but I agree with this for what it's worth. It's been a largely open and worthwhile conversation all around today, even though (because?) it largely hasn't been about box office. Thanks to all who've participated.

 

[DKampy]

I'm not sure who Gina Caramo is, and now I'm suddenly leery of going to Google.

But the Rachel Zegler thing, spread over several different interviews and planned statements over several years, is a textbook way to damage not just your own brand, but the product you are being paid to shill for. It's a PR firms worst nightmare from Miss Zegler.

I'm going to be really interested to see how they market Snow White next month, and how they use Miss Zegler to do that.

I was not necessarily calling you out…just something.I have noticed from others… and this point brought it up to forefront of my mind

That you brought up several years for Zegler is correct…. As the first comment she made went unnoticed for over a year… the rage-tubers went digging for a narrative spin on Snow White because Zegler did not have right pigmentation.,., which rallied their base