Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Agent H]

That was six years ago when they had an overarching storyline building to a finale with a roster of popular actor/character combos. None of that is true in 2025.

Yes it is you are telling lies. they are ramping up towards an event from the comics called secret wars

 

[Agent H]

Totally different scenario…they did well on the origin stories and nailed the team ups…

Even the “worst” team up - age of ultron - was much better conceived and written than any MCU movie of the last 5 years except maybe guardians 3

Kinda sucks that they have stopped making entertaining MCU films then, huh?

This is a subjective opinion one the majority of people disagree with

 

[erasure fan1]

Even the “worst” team up - age of ultron - was much better conceived and written than any MCU movie of the last 5 years except maybe guardians 3

I don't know about anyone else, but I've watched Ultron a few times since endgame. And it's in my opinion pretty underrated. Especially comparing it to post infinity saga.

 

[Architectural Guinea Pig]

Chinese Blockbuster 'Ne Zha 2' Overtakes 'Black Panther' and 'Deadpool & Wolverine' at the Box Office

Ne Zha 2 continues bringing in incredible box office results ahead of its international rollout. See how much the Chinese blockbuster has made so far.

collider.com

Edit: The reception around the movie is very strangely suspicious. All the reviews are 10/10 and there’s something about them that feels very fake- like 99% on RT and 8.3 on iMDB, really? Box Office looks crazily high but it might just be Chinese hype

 

[Casper Gutman]

The problem with the Fantastic Four is that the main character is Doctor Doom (and always has been). And they consistently screw up that character every time they try to adapt the Fantastic Four to film.

And they are screwing it up again this time with the RDJ stunt casting.

This is nonsense. Doom is one of the greatest occaisional antagonists in fiction, sure, but in no way, shape, or form is he the “main character.” The Four have always been the focus, and The Thing in particular is one of the most important and beloved characters in comics, who defined the Marvel ethos and continues to embody it more than any character besides Spider-Man.

 

[Casper Gutman]

My gut tells me they’ll go 0-3 this year…so we’ll see

This is your fondest hope, not a reasoned opinion. And when it doesn’t happen, you won’t adjust your outlook one iota.

 

[Disstevefan1]

My pure guesses about Disney movies in 2025 having no idea how much the real (actual) costs to make and market.

Captain America: Brave New World
Break even, make some money

Snow White
Loss

Thunderbolts
Break even, make some money

Lilo & Stitch
Blockbuster

Elio
Winner, short of blockbuster

The Fantastic Four: First Steps
Winner, short of blockbuster

Freakier Friday
Winner, short of blockbuster

Tron: Ares
Break even, make some money

Zootopia 2
Blockbuster

Avatar: Fire and Ash
Blockbuster

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This is your fondest hope, not a reasoned opinion. And when it doesn’t happen, you won’t adjust your outlook one iota.

You just made all of that up…

Save it for the next snit, eh?

I don’t have high hopes for the marvel slate. I’m not wishing it or in any kinda control of it. We’ll see how it goes?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This is nonsense. Doom is one of the greatest occaisional antagonists in fiction, sure, but in no way, shape, or form is he the “main character.” The Four have always been the focus, and The Thing in particular is one of the most important and beloved characters in comics, who defined the Marvel ethos and continues to embody it more than any character besides Spider-Man.

In comics…and it doesn’t really translate

Let’s just see if it works this time? It might

In the mean time…go back to bed instead of just griping at everyone.

Rough week?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This is a subjective opinion one the majority of people disagree with

Their performance has declined quite significantly…so the synopsis is really that the “majority of people” don’t find the post endgame stuff anywhere close to as compelling as what came before

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yes it is you are telling lies they are ramping up towards an event from the comics called secret wars

Easy, skip

There is nothing “lie” about it. There has been a consistent performance decline since the big money heights. Not totally…but consistent.

Nobody who isn’t buried in comics has ever heard of secret wars…so that means nothing. As they have strayed from the original MCU arcs…it’s more risky. Doa things like “kang dynasty” can’t get off the ground…

And this multiverse stuff is heading off the rails too.

It’s too much commitment to ask of the general audience Disney needs to line the coffers. That’s just the trend as it stands now…a good movie or two could change that.

It however…is not a “lie”…it differs with your opinion…which differs from the available facts right now

 

[Agent H]

Easy, skip

There is nothing “lie” about it. There has been a consistent performance decline since the big money heights. Not totally…but consistent.

Nobody who isn’t buried in comics has ever heard of secret wars…so that means nothing. As they have strayed from the original MCU arcs…it’s more risky. Doa things like “kang dynasty” can’t get off the ground…

And this multiverse stuff is heading off the rails too.

It’s too much commitment to ask of the general audience Disney needs to line the coffers. That’s just the trend as it stands now…a good movie or two could change that.

It however…is not a “lie”…it differs with your opinion…which differs from the available facts right now

IT IS LITERALLY THE TITLE OF AN UPCOMING MOVIE ANYONE CAN SEE THAT! He said they don’t have an overarching storyline that is not true

 

[Agent H]

In comics…and it doesn’t really translate

Let’s just see if it works this time? It might

In the mean time…go back to bed instead of just griping at everyone.

Rough week?

Not translating and bad adaptation are not the same thing oh and you’re being unnecessarily condescending to @Casper Gutman it sounds kinda ageist frankly

 

[Tony the Tigger]

They released2 to 3 films every year before the pandemic and that wasn’t a problem

#facts

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Not translating and bad adaptation are not the same thing

Bad adaptions are what comic book fans harp on…

“Not translating” is not being able to take comic source material and cross it into the main stream to create casual fan demand…which is what the major studios have to achieve.

One is a small problem…one is not

 

[Agent H]

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Bad adaptions are what comic book fans harp on…

“Not translating” is not being able to take comic source material and cross it into the main stream to create casual fan demand…which is what the major studios have to achieve.

One is a small problem…one is not

Fox Was not able to achieve it maybe Kevin can

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

IT IS LITERALLY THE TITLE OF AN UPCOMING MOVIE ANYONE CAN SEE THAT! He said they don’t have an overarching storyline that is not true

Why are you SHOUTING???

and it doesn’t matter what the plan is or the titles…it only matters what the performance is. And right now they need to recover a bit.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

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Fox Was not able to achieve it maybe Kevin can

That’s the gamble. We’ll find out soon enough

 

[Agent H]

Why are you SHOUTING???

and it doesn’t matter what the plan is or the titles…it only matters what the performance is. And right now they need to recover a bit.

Okay different topic for a different time I was responding to someone saying they had less of a plan than during the infinity saga which is not true they were practically flying by the seat of their pants for 2 whole phases

 

[Agent H]

That’s the gamble. We’ll find out soon enough

finally! we agree on something