Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
The money will tell the tale of the “trends”
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Yes it does, much to your dismay Disney does follow trends and has been rather successful doing it.

Sirwalterraleigh said:
When you give people what they want at the box office…like inside out and Moana…it gives them comfort and you are rewarded.

If it’s not…you flop or tread water.
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Your definition though of what is a "reward" versus failure is very likely different than those inside the walls 500 South Buena Vista Street. So while you're calling balls and strikes that means nothing, the people inside those walls have the actual tally sheet and they decide what is a success or not. So while I appreciate your opinion, if Disney is doing something that continues to be a "failure" to you that must mean they have data that shows it was actually a successful endeavor previously.

Sirwalterraleigh said:
But it doesn’t matter what we say.
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Correct it doesn't, which wonders then why you fight so hard against some of us when we discuss how something breaks even or is a "success", if it doesn't matter why care what we say.


Sirwalterraleigh said:
Another example…the parks in Florida are struggling. Period. Losing people, cutting costs and drastically increasing prices to try and keep up. That beast feeds itself.

That is not opinion…it’s in their financials and has been confirmed by all their coverage.

But some people here would say
“I think it’s great”
“It’s never been better”
“It’s worth it to ME”

All opinions and that’s fine…but Also incorrect as being stated by the cold, hard math
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Apples and oranges. Its easier to track what is and isn't working at the parks, not so much in the movie space due to factors that are unknown.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Fantastic four always lands with a comparative thud

Very sacred to marvel/comic lovers…and an ingenious kinda take for its time

But not really compelling characters to the casual fans. This will likely follow suit. Won’t flop…will kinda be “meh”

Just what history tells us
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Except if you take the first film released in 2005 and inflation adjust its WW totals, which everyone likes to do, you have $560M WW.

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That by any standards is a success, not a "thud" as you call it. So I think as long as the movie is good it has a shot at being very successful, as that is all that fans want, hardcore and casuals alike. Also I think you're discounting the fact that many casual fans have grown up with these characters on the large screen now for 20 years. So they aren't as "uncompelling" as you think.
 
AdventureHasAName

AdventureHasAName

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The biggest problem the Fantastic Four movies have had is that they all screw up Doctor Doom and he's the most important character. It would be like adapting Star Wars and screwing up Darth Vader. They appear primed to do it again by making Doom some Tony Stark-variant because they never, ever learn a lesson.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

Premium Member
AdventureHasAName said:
The biggest problem the Fantastic Four movies have had is that they all screw up Doctor Doom and he's the most important character. It would be like adapting Star Wars and screwing up Darth Vader. They appear primed to do it again by making Doom some Tony Stark-variant because they never, ever learn a lesson.
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Except they didn't screw him up in the 2005 one, its all the ones that came after. Julian McMahon I thought did a really good job in the 2005 one. It should also be said that all previous outings were under Fox not Disney/Marvel so that also has some bearing on things.

Also until we get the details of the RDJ Doom, we don't know yet if he will indeed be a Stark variant or not (RDJ himself says no so I would take that as confirmation right now that he's not).
 

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