Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Ok well my post had nothing to do with Hollywood strikes.

As far as the strikes are concerned I haven’t had time to review the details.

With that being said I would default to coming down on the side of labor.

The idea that people are simple cogs in the corporate machine to be worn down and replaced with no consideration at all is repulsive.

Bob Iger’s comments are indefensible and even more ignorant considering the setting they were delivered in.

I was actually hoping you were just talking about Hollywood…

Because “poor people are lazy and Just watch tv”…doesn’t really play.

 

[Trauma]

I was actually hoping you were just talking about Hollywood…

Because “poor people are lazy and Just watch tv”…doesn’t really play.

I didn’t say all they do is watch tv. I just suggested working more.

In my state minimum wage is $13.

A simple 80 hour work week puts a person at 55k a year lifting them out of poverty.

 

[Trauma]

Oh brother. I made the observation that most people rely on television for daily affordable entertainment which somehow gets twisted to, people are watching TV all day! No one wants to work!

There are lots of things the average person would no doubt love to do instead, but that takes money. People need entertainment in between vacations or activities they save up for.

The strikes mean a lot of reruns and reality TV. I don't think people will appreciate this long term.

And what are people watching on YouTube that somehow makes it a replacement for traditional network TV or streaming services?

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The strike is necessary in order for labors demands to be met.

One side has all the power and money.

That’s a whole other can of worms we can discuss but let’s be honest is not getting resolved in the timeframe of this labor dispute.

In summary if you want the labor to receive fair compensation you should get used to watching re-runs.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I didn’t say all they do is watch tv. I just suggested working more.

In my state minimum wage is $13.

A simple 80 hour work week puts a person at 55k a year lifting them out of poverty.

I only hope I have the energy to someday work the 80 hour week at Cracker Barrel

 

[Disney Analyst]

I didn’t say all they do is watch tv. I just suggested working more.

In my state minimum wage is $13.

A simple 80 hour work week puts a person at 55k a year lifting them out of poverty.

Simple?? No one should have to work 80 hours a week. What a horrible way to live, just to barely get a decent salary.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Simple?? No one should have to work 80 hours a week. What a horrible way to live, just to barely get a decent salary.

I believe he meant 2 people working a week…

But if it’s Illinois…I think?…it doesn’t shake out to great after you deduct all the necessary costs required to work In many cases.

I’m all for work…period. But the gap needs to lessen…not widen and that has been the powerbrokers agenda since forever.

It’s either that…or price fixing…and then we’d all clutch out American flag and our pet eagle at once…wouldn’t we?

 

[Trauma]

Simple?? No one should have to work 80 hours a week. What a horrible way to live, just to barely get a decent salary.

VERY TRUE.

However the underlying problems are probably not getting solved within anyone’s lifetime.

I guess maybe I’m weird and I don’t find an 80 work week unusual.

Even people who are tremendously talented and intelligent work those hours. The neurosurgeon who lives next to me works more than I do.

So what is a complete idiot like me with no education suppose to do?

All I was able to figure out was work every waking moment of my life until I didn’t have to anymore.

Should there be a better solution?

YES!

If that solution doesn’t currently exist however what else can someone do ?

 

[Jedijax719]

@Trauma just causing drama as usual.

My question about this alleged 80-hour work week is "how many days" of work? Because if it is 7 days, it's 11.5 hours. 6 days would be 13.3 hours and 5 days would be 16. But I assume that @Trauma did that math before posting his usual garbage?

 

[Disney Analyst]

VERY TRUE.

However the underlying problems are probably not getting solved within anyone’s lifetime.

I guess maybe I’m weird and I don’t find an 80 work week unusual.

Even people who are tremendously talented and intelligent work those hours. The neurosurgeon who lives next to me works more than I do.

So what is a complete idiot like me with no education suppose to do?

All I was able to figure out was work every waking moment of my life until I didn’t have to anymore.

Should there be a better solution?

YES!

If that solution doesn’t currently exist however what else can someone do ?

I say we burn it all down and start again.

It saddens me that anyone would have to work 80 hours just to survive and or get to an eventual state of thriving. Especially if that means you only get to enjoy your life when you are old, if you are lucky to make it to old age.

I get that many absolutely are in situations where they have to work that hard and long to provide for their family and their needs.

My hope would be a future where that would never be necessary. That you can work, have a life balance, and thrive.

 

[Trauma]

@Trauma just causing drama as usual.

My question about this alleged 80-hour work week is "how many days" of work? Because if it is 7 days, it's 11.5 hours. 6 days would be 13.3 hours and 5 days would be 16. But I assume that @Trauma did that math before posting his garbabe?

7 days.

How much do you think Bob Iger or Elon Musk work?

They would make me look lazy in comparison.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This is like Dr Strangelove today

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

I didn’t say all they do is watch tv. I just suggested working more.

In my state minimum wage is $13.

A simple 80 hour work week puts a person at 55k a year lifting them out of poverty.

Could it be that wages are too low?

No, of course not, when the simple solution of working *gets out calculator* an average of 11.43 hours per day allows one to eke out a living.

Dear lord.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I’m enjoying the “masks off” direction this thread has taken.

 

[Jedijax719]

7 days.

How much do you think Bob Iger or Elon Musk work?

They would make me look lazy in comparison.

You're a strange person.

 

[celluloid]

5 of the top 10 grossing films this year are from Disney.

Cost vs earning.

 

[Disney Irish]

But there is a point to saying a film that will have international appeal vs one with less.

Yes international split is less... but having potential gross is still notable vs a film that is expected to do far less because of culture/subject/bans/etc.

Just like there is a point in saying a film has a more domestic appeal.

There is no doubt that international gross potential is notable. But relying on international gross to overcome a lower or poor domestic gross rarely works out long term.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I’m enjoying the “masks off” direction this thread has taken.

I don’t think all this box office talk has ever been “two sided”…as in nobody fully agrees or more importantly DISAGREES with anyone else.

It’s kinda “grey” subject.

Trauma went nuts…but that happens in the high heat sometimes

 

[Trauma]

Could it be that wages are too low?

No, of course not, when the simple solution of working *gets out calculator* an average of 11.43 hours per day allows one to eke out a living.

Dear lord.

Yes wages are to low.

I’m dealing with the reality of the situation.

I do not have the power to raise everyone’s wages.

Your talking about problems that most likely are not getting fixed in time for someone who is struggling.

I did some back the envelope math once when people where arguing about CM pay.

I think this was like 5 years ago I came up with a wage of 26.50 an hour to start.

I don’t find it very useful to post something like that though since people will start crying about the prices.

I am very sure that CM can be payed that much without price increases if you had a management team motivated to do so.

 

[TalkingHead]

Honest question. Will another non-Spidey Marvel movie ever earn as much as Guardians 3? The possibility of “no” has gotta be a concern in Burbank.

 

[celluloid]

I didn’t say all they do is watch tv. I just suggested working more.

In my state minimum wage is $13.

A simple 80 hour work week puts a person at 55k a year lifting them out of poverty.

Check your math. A thousand dollars less than that 55 poverty line, and I hope you never called in sick a day.