Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[BrianLo]

As some longtime posters know, even though someone who posts here once tried to claim I was "racist!" for saying so, I am a lifelong lover of The Supremes.

Hi! It's in the past and no need to re-litigate things. But for the record I do not and nor did I have any problem with your love of the Supremes. I'm happy you enjoy them.

I thought you were being intentionally malicious towards another user, which I've taken at face value was actually done completely without your awareness (with intent or malice); for which I apologized for jumping to an accusation.

 

[celluloid]

You came at me first about something I said which was not controversial.., in fact I was basically captain obvious…Poor Things will not only break even but make a bit of profit while in theaters as such will continue to add to those profits for the rest of the films lifespan… which is a fact as an individual film… but then you came at me about how that’s not true because of other films from the studio… I am still not sure how that affects Poor Things profits… so I was merely pointing out other studios are in more dire straits
Yes… I agree Bob Marley: One Love will make a profit in the theatrical window… and the rest after that will be gravy for that particular film… By the way I saw the film… The movie itself was not great, but as a fan of Bob Marley’s music I still liked it… if that makes sense

The only reason I mentioned the universal loyalist stuff was because of your insinuation that I was a loyalist blind follower of Disney which I felt was calling the kettle because I remember seeing a back and forth between you and someone else in the universal threads… I was going to comment then, but decided to stay out of it as that was between the 2 of you…and I don’t think it is appropriate of me to derail the box office film thread with theme park discussion

I don’t automatically like everything Disney does… just because I actually watch it before I criticize… Sure as a Disney fan I might be predispose for some of it to hit me differently… but that is no different then a Nintendo fan who likes The Super Mario Bros. Movie due to their nostalgia even though that movie was not great… although Haunted Mansion had tons of nostalgia and I still did not care for that movie

I never said anything about you being a blind loyalist. Nor is there any true evidence of all other movie studios being in more dire straits than Disney If you want to say other studios are struggling in the box office industry that is a separate discussion. You can also have that discussion as it has occured on here before and debunked with if you want to speak of other studios struggling in post pandemic climates, you also have to acknowledge some have done very well with some of their best performances ever. Nor is any of it relevant to the fact that Disney's methods have not worked at all well in theatrical box office recently. I used the term loyalist in terms of what this thread is hanging a hat on with pages of rooting for Poor Things to mak ea profit when someone not you inquired about how others can post over and over again about the film rooting for it to be a success when it is a rather minor situation. You are framing something that did not happen. Take care.

 

[Miss Rori]

Box Office from overseas just got updated today for this past weekend, and you know what's heavily in the Gravy Zone right now? The two family movies released for the holidays that were NOT made by Disney and are still in the Top 10 as the calendar flips over to March. This is Gravy!

And are in the Top 10 despite being available for digital purchase/rental for weeks (and from what I can tell are performing just fine there too). Wonka just made it to Blu-Ray this week and hits streaming next week, but it is still playing in many markets, if only as a matinee title.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Nerdy men are icky. She wanted a whole new non-nerdy men fanbase. So she hired a bunch of people that wanted the same thing and set out on a quest to destroy the things in Star Wars that nerdy men liked best. Priority #1 was wrecking Luke Skywalker's story.

Well…Mission: Accomplished

“Heck of a Job, Brownie!!”

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Good Lord.

Luke’s story was never wrecked except to extra fragile man babies.

It’s not a bedtime story. It’s Star Wars. And it made sense.

I love Star Wars more than Disney, never found the storyline offensive because life isn’t always a wish.

It was just bad

Not well thought out or made movies

And I’m not talking gender politics and “agendas”

I’m saying changing the philosophy and the titles of forty year old things so Harrison ford could get a check and someone named “Daisy” that can’t get a job now could be showcased was just stupid

And Disney has lost potential money everyday since

No need to carry water on it, debate it or dwell on it. “These things happened and they were incredible”

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You know there are many different types of women… just as there are men… I am not the traditional stereotypical male… I don’t care about sports ball, I don’t spend time in the shed playing with my tools, all I care about cars is that it gets me from point A to point B… we need to get away from stereotypes… People are all unique from each other…so can characters in movies

So your plea to get away from stereotypes is to label your self “anti” things and draw a line in a sand?

…well that’s interesting…for sure

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Hi! It's in the past and no need to re-litigate things. But for the record I do not and nor did I have any problem with your love of the Supremes. I'm happy you enjoy them.

I thought you were being intentionally malicious towards another user, which I've taken at face value was actually done completely without your awareness (with intent or malice); for which I apologized for jumping to an accusation.

…good advice

So it better NEVER happen again…by anyone

 

[brideck]

someone named “Daisy” that can’t get a job now could be showcased was just stupid

Right. Right. 3 roles in 2023 and 6 upcoming credits per IMDb, but she "can't get a job now." Your narrative =/= truth.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

And are in the Top 10 despite being available for digital purchase/rental for weeks (and from what I can tell are performing just fine there too). Wonka just made it to Blu-Ray this week and hits streaming next week, but it is still playing in many markets, if only as a matinee title.

Wonka even pulled in over a million last Monday (Presidents’ Day) and fourth place in the rankings - plus a million this past Saturday (2.5 million for the weekend Fri-Sun.) That’s impressive considering it’s been out since before Christmas and been on PPV for the last couple or three weeks.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Right. Right. 3 roles in 2023 and 6 upcoming credits per IMDb, but she "can't get a job now." Your narrative =/= truth.

Anybody interested in any of those?

I don’t have an issue with her on her own…but Luke 2.0 was beyond stupid and could have easily been avoided.

Hubris is the word

 

[DKampy]

So your plea to get away from stereotypes is to label your self “anti” things and draw a line in a sand?

…well that’s interesting…for

Huh?? More word salad I suppose

It was just bad

Not well thought out or made movies

And I’m not talking gender politics and “agendas”

I’m saying changing the philosophy and the titles of forty year old things so Harrison ford could get a check and someone named “Daisy” that can’t get a job now could be showcased was just stupid

And Disney has lost potential money everyday since

No need to carry water on it, debate it or dwell on it. “These things happened and they were incredible”

As far as I can tell Daisy Ridley has been a working actor since the ST

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Taylor Swift, Beyoncé Drove “Literally All” of AMC Theatres’ Quarterly Revenue Increase

CEO Adam Aron said the company will have more concert movies "later in 2024 and/or 2025" and will feature new Nicole Kidman spots starting March 1.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[TalkingHead]

Since this is adjacent to the topic, does AMC seem like a doomed business? Their stock continues to drop and they’re losing money. I wonder if there’s any universe where a studio would consider partnering with them to reinvigorate the theatrical business.

 

[Disney Irish]

Since this is adjacent to the topic, does AMC seem like a doomed business? Their stock continues to drop and they’re losing money. I wonder if there’s any universe where a studio would consider partnering with them to reinvigorate the theatrical business.

Rumors have swirled for most of last summer of Amazon buying AMC. After the recent the recent earnings post-Swift not sure that is still in play or not. But I would imagine that their issues are not over. So wouldn't be surprised if they are not at least bought out by a rival theater chain like Regal.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Taylor Swift, Beyoncé Drove “Literally All” of AMC Theatres’ Quarterly Revenue Increase

CEO Adam Aron said the company will have more concert movies "later in 2024 and/or 2025" and will feature new Nicole Kidman spots starting March 1.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Concerts in the theaters is a no brainer for me -
Fraction of the cost.
YOU CAN SEE THE CONCERT! I could always only afford the seats where the band looks like ants!
In the theater, EVERY SEAT is the BEST SEAT!
You have your seat/spot.
BETTER AUDIO!
Climate control.
Easy access to restrooms.
Easy access to snacks and food.

Such events like this are MUCH better in the theater.

That said, I personally would wait for it to be on streaming.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Since this is adjacent to the topic, does AMC seem like a doomed business? Their stock continues to drop and they’re losing money. I wonder if there’s any universe where a studio would consider partnering with them to reinvigorate the theatrical business.

They predicted the theaters would bankrupt for years

Likely at somepoint bought and sold off for the real estate

Toys r us…basically

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Huh?? More word salad I suppose

In an effort to “buck stereotypes”…you put yourself in a basket filled with protests. Which in the wash is the same as a stereotype

As far as I can tell Daisy Ridley has been a working actor since the ST

Yeah…but has anybody seen her in anything?

 

[J4546]

Concerts in the theaters is a no brainer for me -
Fraction of the cost.
YOU CAN SEE THE CONCERT! I could always only afford the seats where the band looks like ants!
In the theater, EVERY SEAT is the BEST SEAT!
You have your seat/spot.
BETTER AUDIO!
Climate control.
Easy access to restrooms.
Easy access to snacks and food.

Such events like this are MUCH better in the theater.

That said, I personally would wait for it to be on streaming.

i agree, concerts and other live events seem like a no brainer to me.

 

[TalkingHead]

Rumors have swirled for most of last summer of Amazon buying AMC. After the recent the recent earnings post-Swift not sure that is still in play or not. But I would imagine that their issues are not over. So wouldn't be surprised if they are not at least bought out by a rival theater chain like Regal.

Interesting, hadn’t heard that. Could envision Amazon turning some locations into multi-use. I’ve said it before on here but AMC A-List can only subsidize the studios’ tentpoles for so long. Seems unsustainable.

 

[DKampy]

In an effort to “buck stereotypes”…you put yourself in a basket filled with protests. Which in the wash is the same as a stereotype

Not protesting anything… people can be who ever they want to be

Yeah…but has anybody seen her in anything?

Yes… I have… and as far as I can tell… I am somebody