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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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Ghost93
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He didn't say Burbank though!
TP2000
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This is a thread about Disney at the box office, so I'm helping by doing a summary every week or two on how the box office is going for Disney this summer with solid facts and hard data.
It's not the "same thing", as it changes every week as the box office numbers change.
The only thing that hasn't changed is that Disney is still losing a heckuva lot of money this summer at the box office.
TP2000
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Only because that's part of a drinking game and it's only 6pm here my time.
Give me another hour and a half or so, then Burbank!
BuddyThomas
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The only thing that hasn’t changed is that you continue to post about films you have not seen.This is a thread about Disney at the box office, so I'm helping by doing a summary every week or two on how the box office is going for Disney this summer with solid facts and hard data.
It's not the "same thing", as it changes every week as the box office numbers change.
The only thing that hasn't changed is that Disney is still losing a heckuva lot of money this summer at the box office.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
At this point it doesn't matter, they just want to continue to talk about how disappointing the box office is for Disney and how much they will lose.
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Yes. Hence the title of this thread that some fabulous person started.
Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
I figured we could create a thread to discuss all things Disney, and their box office performance, instead of littering the various threads. Disney has had success in the last couple of years (No Way Home, Dr. Strange, Avatar, etc.), and pretty big box office blunders (Lightyear, Strange...
It's been a fun read here so far, and I look forward to seeing where all of Disney's summer tent poles, including Haunted Mansion (not really a tent pole, maybe that one is just a tent peg?) land when the box office is all tallied up on Labor Day.
Then... what happens next? How does Disney recover and make sure the last 15 months (except Marvel, of course) never happens again?
BuddyThomas
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And yet, you’re not worrying about the major underperformance of Mission Impossible. Seems like YOUR mission is just to troll Disney. On what is supposedly a Disney fan board. But it’s not, really, since the haters on here outnumber those who are actually fans.Yes. Hence the title of this thread some fabulous person started.
It's been a fun read here so far, and I look forward to seeing where all of Disney's summer tent poles, including Haunted Mansion (not really a tent pole, maybe that one is just a tent peg?) land when the box office is all tallied up on Labor Day.
Then... what happens next? How does Disney recover and make sure the last 15 months (except Marvel, of course) never happens again?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I continue to fail to see how “other people are doing it…” is the go to excuse for Disney looking like a failure in damn near all of their current offerings/products?
Want to talk about what a gold mine China is gonna be for them while we’re at it and check all the boxes, Bob?
TP2000
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The data from Mission: Impossible and its underwhelming opening weekend can be found on the Indy 5 thread. I posted that box office update yesterday once the weekend's full numbers had come in, comparing/contrasting Indy 5 with the latest M:I.
Indiana Jones 5 Now Pushed Back to 2021
Got it, so it’s still an embarrassing joke. Glad you enjoyed it. Huh? All the Spielberg IJ films are variations on in-jokes made with self-awareness. Dial lacks that, being an unstyled imitation that doesn’t get the joke. Par for the course for Disney-era Lucasfilm bosh. Glad you enjoyed it.
It's still fun to discuss individual box office trends for individual movies in their individual threads, but this thread takes all of Disney's latest disappointments into a full picture of just how badly Disney's overall box office has been the past year. Fascinating.
And now suddenly set against the backdrop of a major, and likely long running, full Hollywood shutdown and double-strike??? Yikes.
BuddyThomas
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Thank God data about Mission Impossible can be found on the Indiana Jones thread!The data from Mission: Impossible and its underwhelming opening weekend can be found on the Indy 5 thread. I posted that box office update yesterday once the weekend's full numbers had come in, comparing/contrasting Indy 5 with the latest M:I.
Indiana Jones 5 Now Pushed Back to 2021
Got it, so it’s still an embarrassing joke. Glad you enjoyed it. Huh? All the Spielberg IJ films are variations on in-jokes made with self-awareness. Dial lacks that, being an unstyled imitation that doesn’t get the joke. Par for the course for Disney-era Lucasfilm bosh. Glad you enjoyed it.forums.wdwmagic.com
It's still fun to discuss individual box office trends for individual movies in their individual threads, but this thread takes all of Disney's latest disappointments into a full picture of just how badly Disney's overall box office has been the past year. Fascinating.
And now suddenly set against the backdrop of a major, and likely long running, full Hollywood shutdown and double-strike??? Yikes.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
How dare you be “fair”?The data from Mission: Impossible and its underwhelming opening weekend can be found on the Indy 5 thread. I posted that box office update yesterday once the weekend's full numbers had come in, comparing/contrasting Indy 5 with the latest M:I.
Indiana Jones 5 Now Pushed Back to 2021
Got it, so it’s still an embarrassing joke. Glad you enjoyed it. Huh? All the Spielberg IJ films are variations on in-jokes made with self-awareness. Dial lacks that, being an unstyled imitation that doesn’t get the joke. Par for the course for Disney-era Lucasfilm bosh. Glad you enjoyed it.
It's still fun to discuss individual box office trends for individual movies in their individual threads, but this thread takes all of Disney's latest disappointments into a full picture of just how badly Disney's overall box office has been the past year. Fascinating.
And now suddenly set against the backdrop of a major, and likely long running, full Hollywood shutdown and double-strike??? Yikes.
That won’t be tolerated around here!
The point is to demonstrate how great it was at port orleans in 2017…when Bob told us that from now on, we were all gonna be luxury and should be so proud?
(That really is the fundamental issue we have to deal with on far too many topics. Can’t have a serious conversation)
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Well then…it’s void and we can now get back to the important stuff:
Like how TLM is only an $85,000,000 (minimum) write down now?
Tha Realest
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I’m not sure whether he’s seen a particular film has any bearing on his top-line analysis of the overall numbers.
Tha Realest
Well-Known Member
I actually think the strike is going to help Disney. It’s clear they’ve had a spending problem on the production side for some time. That was masked by box office habits and D+ largesse. That’s over now, but the writers strike (and now SAG strike) realy hit the emergency brake on a lot of these productions. It’s saving Disney from itself, not having to keep spending on all these projects that will invariably keep losing them money. In a way, forced attrition.And now suddenly set against the backdrop of a major, and likely long running, full Hollywood shutdown and double-strike??? Yikes.
BrianLo
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TLM is not a write down. Or Disney+ is wildly profitable.
You gotta pick one and stick to it.
Though if it makes you feel better, the one almost definite write down no matter the back end dealing is Indy.
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Disney Irish
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So hows Tommy's second $1 bil coming?
I don't think anyone at this point, even me, has claimed that Disney has no issues. But these issues with the box office and budgets, as that is what we're discussing here not other offerings/products, don't happen in a vacuum. The point in saying that other studios are having the same issues with budgets and box office is to show its an industry wide issue and needs systematic fixing, the whole industry is changing (almost overnight) and is something that Disney isn't and can't do alone. The reasons budgets balloon, as was brought up by another poster, is Hollywood chasing the next great tent pole film, and pulling back on the small-to-medium sized movies. And yes Disney has been a "leader" in this front, but not alone.
So if this really was just a Disney problem I'd probably come around and be right there with you. But because its the whole industry having the same issues, that is systematic. How each studio handles that over the next couple years, well we'll just have to wait and see. Because its not going to be something that each studio can change overnight, even though the industry is changing at that pace. So Disney and the other studios are going to have to continue to take their lumps at the box office for at least the near term.
TP2000
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If Mermaid can get bailed out by a pot of cash Disney+ keeps on hand for such things even though it's a division that has lost Billions of dollars in the last few fiscal years, why can't Indy 5 also get bailed out by Disney+?
Who decides when the free money from Disney+ gets handed out?
Somehow, this reminds me of when we'd play Monopoly on family game nights, and my sister and my mom would somehow be in charge of the bank together leaving my dad and I to wonder how they just put two hotels on Park Place and Boardwalk.
Who controls this mysterious pot of free cash money that Disney+ doles out to floundering (get it?) movies?