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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

LittleBuford

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I stand by my characterisation of Elemental “being a very good family movie with great word of mouth and positive buzz”. I made no claims about its performance relative to other Pixar releases.
 

DKampy

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It looks like both those movies are available on Amazon Prime to rent for $20 bucks apiece. Or $25 each to own.

That has to earn those studios more profit on those films than Disney's strategy of putting their mega-budget box office flops on Disney+ for $14 per month.
Disney does this as well… there were people on these very forums that watched The Little Mermaid for the 19.99 rental price

Wonka(HBO Max) and Migration(Peacock) will also show up on their respective services just like The Little Mermaid did on Disney +
 

TP2000

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Box Office estimate is out for this weekend, Friday thru Sunday. Poor Things is in 9th place. I'll spare us the cut and paste job for All Of Us Strangers and Wish way down the list, but suffice it to say they still exist in a few hundred theaters. Wish made $81,000 this weekend in 130 theaters, and All Of Us Strangers made $253,000 in 150 theaters.

Here's the Top 10. A movie called Argylle, and another one of those religious films, opened this weekend in #1 and #2.

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TalkingHead

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Can someone direct me to the Apple box office forum so I can get started on ripping into them for making three $200m bombs?

Or maybe it’s like some of us have been saying: this isn’t just a Disney problem. It’s an industry issue that extends from filmmakers and producers down to the exhibitors.

There is no quick fix because the damage is intrinsic to this era of the movie business.
 

LittleBuford

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Can someone direct me to the Apple box office forum so I can get started on ripping into them for making three $200m bombs?

Or maybe it’s like some of us have been saying: this isn’t just a Disney problem. It’s an industry issue that extends from filmmakers and producers down to the exhibitors.

There is no quick fix because the damage is intrinsic to this era of the movie business.
Someone will respond to tell you that this is a Disney box-office thread. (They’ll omit to mention that other studios are OK to bring up so long as it makes Disney look bad.)
 

TalkingHead

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I think everyone has at this point.

The question is how many more of these are so far along it’s too late to pull the plug?
I’m not sure Apple having a streaming service makes any more sense than Disney. One thing’s for sure: from a producer/studio standpoint, they’re no better at making movies than Disney or Netflix.
 

DKampy

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I’m not sure Apple having a streaming service makes any more sense than Disney. One thing’s for sure: from a producer/studio standpoint, they’re no better at making movies than Disney or Netflix.
Except people will point out that it’s ok… Apple is not making movies to succeed because their in the business of selling computers… I guess by that token it is fine with Disney since they are in the business of theme parks, cruises etc. ..
 

TP2000

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Can someone direct me to the Apple box office forum so I can get started on ripping into them for making three $200m bombs?

Or maybe it’s like some of us have been saying: this isn’t just a Disney problem. It’s an industry issue that extends from filmmakers and producers down to the exhibitors.

There is no quick fix because the damage is intrinsic to this era of the movie business.

I don't get it either. I've said this dozens of times probably by now, but my pea-sized brain can't figure out how streaming pencils out. For anyone. Most notably Disney and their money-sucking Disney+ service, because we're talking mostly about Disney here. But the other streaming services who are now producing their own shows (I meant to say "content", I swear) don't make much financial sense to me either.

For only 15 bucks a month, and being able to instantly cancel and resubscribe a few months later, only to cancel again, just doesn't make sense to me financially. How did this business plan get approved again? And who is responsible?
 

Tha Realest

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Well there is still some question on whether the deal with Uni for the Hulk is still in place or not. But other than that once Disney bought 21st Century the only remaining deal is with Sony, everything else is under Disney.
I think Universal has some control over Namor too- they could use him as they did in BPW, but a solo film is likely not doable under the existing rights issues with Universal
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I think Universal has some control over Namor too- they could use him as they did in BPW, but a solo film is likely not doable under the existing rights issues with Universal
Just like Hulk, Namor rights are still in question, and if Uni really still have rights over both of them. However with that said, as I understand it, the only rights Uni really has are first refusal rights over distribution not anything to do with production itself.

Last summer there were rumblings that both rights have been reverted back to Marvel. The only way to know for sure is if Marvel ever does a standalone movie for either in the future.
 

Tha Realest

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Just like Hulk, Namor rights are still in question, and if Uni really still have rights over both of them. However with that said, as I understand it, the only rights Uni really has are first refusal rights over distribution not anything to do with production itself.

Last summer there were rumblings that both rights have been reverted back to Marvel. The only way to know for sure is if Marvel ever does a standalone movie for either in the future.
Yeah, there was some discussions of that when BPW was released. I don’t think Marvel knows what they want to do with the future of that corner of the universe. Ironheart - which completed its filming at the end of 2022 - has been pushed to 2025. I don‘t know that there’s a lot of audience demand for the character, and the actor’s lost at least one role due to some personal stuff probably not wise to bring up here.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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I’ve been watching The Marvels on D+ and this is another example that confirms my decision to wait and watch Disney movies on D+. I’d have been disappointed if I’d paid money to see this in theaters.

It’s ok but it feels like a made for D+ show far more than a theatrical release.

Disney has blurred the lines between box office movie and straight to dvd (D+) movie and I think that’s also diminishing the need to see movies in theaters.
 

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