Agreed, which is why it's a little curious that Disney has seemed pretty intent on using Searchlight in part as a direct-to-Hulu label. A growing amount of their stuff seems to be going that route. I would have seen pretty much all of them, had they hit theaters, but I haven't even thought about watching (checks notes) Rye Lane, Quasi, or the upcoming Suncoast. [Note: The Academy's obsession with mediocre Diane Warren songs means I'll be watching Flamin' Hot before too long.] They're actively telling me those movies are less than by not having even a small art-house release first.
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Agreed, which is why it's a little curious that Disney has seemed pretty intent on using Searchlight in part as a direct-to-Hulu label. A growing amount of their stuff seems to be going that route. I would have seen pretty much all of them, had they hit theaters, but I haven't even thought about watching (checks notes) Rye Lane, Quasi, or the upcoming Suncoast. [Note: The Academy's obsession with mediocre Diane Warren songs means I'll be watching Flamin' Hot before too long.] They're actively telling me those movies are less than by not having even a small art-house release first.
Phroobar
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I would assume The First Omen, Deadpool 3, the Amateur and Alien: Romulus are rated R.
While Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes is PG-13 and Inside Out 2 and Mufasa as PG.
I just don't know if Inside Out 2 worth seeing yet.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Inside out - like all first issue Pixar ideas - had a ton of heart.
Adolescence and the trauma of moving/isolation…just a brilliant take on adolescence. Like John Hughes esque
But that doesn’t mean a second will hit the same chords
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I think there is a huge value in being around other people…even in the dark. We’re social creatures and are drawn to it.
Doctors/Psychologists are just now sounding the warning bells about the effect of social isolation due to tech.
We need movie theaters…frankly we need shopping malls. Something is missing
Phroobar
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Sure people treat each other like dirt in live social settings because they are used to being anonymous on line. There is no accountability online.
Casper Gutman
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I’m glad this thread is here so that posters who have made hating everything modern Disney does the defining element of their personality can tell us they don’t intend to see Disney’s upcoming films - otherwise we would all be in such suspense.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Thanks for the superfluous exaggeration
Everyone knows their “role”…like a bad Disney Star Wars movie
_caleb
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Overall trends vs. anecdotal observations? Not sure, but I think it's pretty universally agreed upon that theater attendance is still on its 25-year decline. While it's up from COVID numbers, it's still back in line with the downward trend.
I think this perception/memory is what Disney is trying to avoid. I know it doesn't always feel this way, but the model is more "Netflix Originals" than the old "straight to VHS."
I think this is why Disney initially spent so much on D+ programming–to avoid the perception that streaming is just for lesser content. Not saying they've been successful in this, but I believe this was the thinking. (It also seems to be the thinking that got them crosswise with Scarlett Johansson).
That might be what their actions are telling you, but I'm pretty sure that's NOT the message they want to send. I also don't think this is how most people today are interpreting direct-to-streaming releases, like what we're seeing from Netflix, Hulu, AppleTV+, Prime, etc.
I guess I'm thinking it's sort of older-school thinking to see streaming releases as the modern version of "direct-to-home-video." Direct-to-Consumer is (well, could be) much more than that.
BuddyThomas
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Just got out of All of Us Strangers. Wow. Not what I was expecting at all. I knew it was going to be good but it was pretty incredible. There are only four speaking roles in the entire film, but these actors are each fantastic. It’s really a film about loneliness and regret, which I had heard before seeing it, but I wasn’t expecting it to be such an ugly cry tearjerker. Very, very sad movie. Riding home on the subway now with very red eyes.
The plan originally was going all in on streaming, but the studios seem to be pivoting now that they have real world data that is telling them that films do better on streaming when released in theaters.. HBO’s day and date release strategy during Covid is largely consider a failure…It has been said a big reason for Chapek’s firing was due to his sending all Pixar titles to Disney plus
Studios are now sending movies originally intended for streaming to the theaters… like the recent release of Mean Girls and the upcoming Alien film… even Apple and Amazon have now committed themselves to spending billions on theatrical yearly
I am not denying there are less people going to the theater…(although my own experiences don’t feel as dire as some mention), but I believe studios now realize they need theaters more than they originally thought
BOR is predicting that Poor Things brings in another $1.9 million domestically this coming weekend. If that holds true, it will have almost closed the gap between it and The Favourite caused by its later launch in the calendar year.
Will it do it? I don't know, but either way I won't be around to talk about it. I'm headed to WDW for a week starting early Saturday morning.
Will it do it? I don't know, but either way I won't be around to talk about it. I'm headed to WDW for a week starting early Saturday morning.
Communicora
Premium Member
They really should have released Rye Lane to theaters. People are hungry for rom-coms. I guess I will have to subscribe to hulu for a month to watch it.
pigglewiggle
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Hulu is great. It's actually our favorite out of all the streaming services. It has some great television series also and some pretty decent original movies.
_caleb
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I’ll stop talking about Disney’s major new initiative to position itself for the future of the entertainment industry when you stop complaining about Bob Iger in every other post!Jesus…
Can you talk about anything without bringing up their very unimpressive streaming format?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
As soon as he’s gone…
…there’s almost nil even around here who DON’T want that at this point.
Hate the game…not the player
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Wall St isn't expecting a prepandemic Box Office of $10B or more until at least 2026, but if its going to get there they are expecting Disney to drive it -
www.cnbc.com
Wall Street is watching for a $10 billion domestic box office in 2026. Disney could get it there
While franchise-rich movies slates are on the docket for 2024 and 2025, Wall Street doesn't foresee ticket sales exceeding $10 billion domestically until 2026.
www.cnbc.com
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Well…that doesn’t mean they have anything decent comingWall St isn't expecting a prepandemic Box Office of $10B or more until at least 2026, but if its going to get there they are expecting Disney to drive it -
Wall Street is watching for a $10 billion domestic box office in 2026. Disney could get it there
While franchise-rich movies slates are on the docket for 2024 and 2025, Wall Street doesn't foresee ticket sales exceeding $10 billion domestically until 2026.
Help us, James Cameron?
Disney Irish
Premium Member
"Decent" is relative, but they are expecting Avatar 3, Marvel, and the SW movies to do well.Well…that doesn’t mean they have anything decent coming
Help us, James Cameron?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Avatar will make its haul…but I’m guess it will be lower…maybe 25%
Marvel needs serious rejuvenation
There is no Star Wars. That should only be updated when a film is actually, written, shot and the theaters are booked.
They earned it.