Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Wendy Pleakley

Wendy Pleakley

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EPCOT-O.G. said:
“Other studios’ films are struggling too.” Sure. But they didn’t cost $200M+ to produce. This wide gulf in production costs is something many of you fail to account for.
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As has been noted in this thread, there are reasons the difference in budgets as reported don't tell the whole story.

Something that people continue to fail to account for.

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TalkingHead

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Vegas Disney Fan

Vegas Disney Fan

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TalkingHead said:
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Daisy Ridley Movie ‘Young Woman And The Sea’ Officially Swimming From Disney+ To May Theatrical Release – Update

Daisy Ridley movie 'Young Woman and the Sea' sets May 31 theatrical release after being conceived for Disney+
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Don’t know if that’s come up in this thread but it strikes me as a very odd decision if they decide to release theatrically in summer. Unless the goal is to gather evidence of box office poison…
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With so little set to release it probably makes more sense to release a D+ movie no one’s seen yet than to continue to release D+ movies everyone’s already seen.

Soul isn’t getting butts in seats so it’s probably worth the advertising budget to see if this will.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Vegas Disney Fan said:
With so little set to release it probably makes more sense to release a D+ movie no one’s seen yet than to continue to release D+ movies everyone’s already seen.

Soul isn’t getting butts in seats so it’s probably worth the advertising budget to see if this will.
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Another brilliant “she’ll work cheap” Disney find.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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brideck said:
I should know better than to respond to any of this, but by sheer number of tickets sold world-wide Wish is doing just as well as all of the other mid animated offerings that were presented over the holiday season. The fact that none of them was a house afire should tell the entire industry that they've got to get this figured out. Disney's sin here isn't in making movies that were less well-received by the market, it's on the budget/expectations side. They either need to figure out how to make new IPs into must-see blockbusters again or they need to understand that such a concept has become rare as hens' teeth in the post-pandemic streaming-saturated landscape and adjust strategy.
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Wish is neither a good movie nor successful. That’s on Disney…it’s a miss. They aren’t well positioned for misses. At all. It’s gas on an already blazing fire at 1 dopey drive, Burbank, Ca.

It’s not that other studios aren’t having misses. They always have because they don’t have the Disney advantage. The real problem is it appears to be a disadvantage. First time really ever. Maybe 2000 ish with - again - bad movies.

Or…since I think I’ve seen all the 2023 stinkers except marvels at this point…they’re making pretty bad movies.

Guardians 3 was fantastic…if I’m honest. Elemental was solid…the rest blow.

There’s resistance here to just saying Disney is making crap. It’s always an “industry problem”.
Very similar to park apologists…which are gonna get real loud over the next 18 months.

brideck said:
Tell me you haven't seen Poor Things without saying you haven't seen Poor Things. There is absolutely nothing superficial or obvious about that performance.
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I have…and I appreciate it even with the weird “daughter/girlfriend of Frankenstein” kinda angle

I didn’t say she was superficial. I’m saying the Hollywood machine/press have adored her for along time so she gets accolades all the time. The “Streep effect”.
 
BuddyThomas

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TP2000

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Just a few days after Soul was pulled from theaters after its rather humiliating two week run (Domestic Box Office = $946,154) they debuted this today at Disneyland's newly rebranded Pixar Place Hotel.

I'm a jazz fan, so I enjoy this, but... it's like their once-vaunted corporate Synergy Machine has gotten rusty and run down.

 
_caleb

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It seems some of us are more interested in discussing the second part of the thread's title, while others are fixated on the first.
 
BrianLo

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Phroobar said:
As we approach the end of 2023, Disney has confirmed only seven movies for 2024—The First Omen, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, Inside Out 2, Deadpool 3, Alien: Romulus, The Amateur, and Mufasa: The Lion King.

I have no desire to see any of these movies. Six sequels to franchises I really don't care about.
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I think Inside Out 2 and Deadpool 3 have fairly strong box office potential. Especially Deadpool.

Personally I’m interested in seeing Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes and Alien: Romulus (assuming they are good movies). That’s not their box office though.

Mufasa feels like they are setting themselves up for failure since the market has turned on the live action films. It seems poised to pull an Alice through the looking glass fall. Unless somehow it is actually a really, really good movie.
 
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brideck

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BrianLo said:
Mufasa feels like they are setting themselves up for failure since the market has turned on the live action films. It seems poised to pull an Alice through the looking glass fall. Unless somehow it is actually a really, really good movie.
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Getting Barry Jenkins (Moonlight, If Beale Street Could Talk) to do this movie as work-for-hire is really, really interesting. I have no idea how his skill set will translate to a CGI-fest like this, and he's not a writer/producer on it.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Phroobar said:
As we approach the end of 2023, Disney has confirmed only seven movies for 2024—The First Omen, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, Inside Out 2, Deadpool 3, Alien: Romulus, The Amateur, and Mufasa: The Lion King.

I have no desire to see any of these movies. Six sequels to franchises I really don't care about.
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I’ll see inside out

Not much interest in the others

Maybe Deadpool…just because I’ve always liked Ryan Reynolds…but that will depends on reviews to be honest
 
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DKampy

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It is odd to me…The local theater I visit most does not feel like it is getting any less customers than it did before the pandemic… I go every week and most films seem to have at least a decent crowd… if not more so… granted I see most opening weekend and they closed the slower theater which may have seen less… so it’s possible it is evening out with the patrons that visited the other theater

Maybe it appears Box Office is becoming irrelevant to some… but Theaters still feel relevant to most studios… they now have data that point towards films doing better on streaming if they go to theaters first… the top 10 films on streaming for 2023 all went to theaters first…Saltburn is one of the buzziest movies right now… I don’t think that would of happened if it did not go to theaters first

IMO straight to streaming is the new straight to DVD/Blu-Ray
 
Wendy Pleakley

Wendy Pleakley

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DKampy said:
It is odd to me…The local theater I visit most does not feel like it is getting any less customers than it did before the pandemic… I go every week and most films seem to have at least a decent crowd… if not more so… granted I see most opening weekend and they closed the slower theater which may have seen less… so it’s possible it is evening out with the patrons that visited the other theater

Maybe it appears Box Office is becoming irrelevant to some… but Theaters still feel relevant to most studios… they now have data that point towards films doing better on streaming if they go to theaters first… the top 10 films on streaming for 2023 all went to theaters first…Saltburn is one of the buzziest movies right now… I don’t think that would of happened if it did not go to theaters first

IMO straight to streaming is the new straight to DVD/Blu-Ray
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Definitely.

They advertise movies on Apple or other services with the tagline "bring the theater home". It's a selling point.

If a movie was released theatrically it means it wasn't likely a low budget affair and had a certain amount of care put into it.
 

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