Ouchā¦been thereā¦it sucksā¦of the best picture nomineesā¦I need to see Zone of Interest, Anatomy of a Fall, and Maestroā¦Not going to lie I am not real excited to see that last onehave to see that. I was supposed to see The Zone of Interest tonight but I sprained my ankle on the treadmill at the gym today, so after the doctor, I just hobbled my way home instead, lol. Fun times!
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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BuddyThomas
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Iāll just say that we lasted a total of 38 minutes of Maestro. We were not fans. At all.
Disney Irish
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TSG was one of the production companies.
TSG was the financing partner for 20th Century Fox, which Disney took over and by extension the partnership. You'll notice outside of a few Sony movies, all of TSG productions are for 20th Century/Searchlight. So yes its a Disney movie as its co-produced by TSG.
Now if they can trade these in for revenue they might break even!!!
Oh wait I forgotā¦
Nobody cares.
BuddyThomas
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TP2000
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Poor Things needs each of its 11 nominations to be worth about $6 Million in upcoming box office per nomination, or else it won't break even at the box office.
As of yesterday, Poor Things has about $34 Million in global box office, which is about $65 Million short of breaking even with its $35 Million production budget and a guesstimate of a shoestring global marketing budget of only $15 Million.
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Disney Irish
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Not the way it works, but whatever.
TSG has a partnership with Disney to finance films for the 20th Century and Searchlight banners. That is all that matters, so yeah its a Disney film.
Searchlight itself was also among the production companies, according to some sources, although we'd probably have to study the end credits in some detail to figure out how true that is. Regardless, in the world of indie films, the distributor is the brand most associated with the movie and is the one responsible for promotion and negotiating screen counts and all that good stuff. Production companies, like Element Pictures in this case (who consistently make great stuff), are a little more inside baseball. You really have to be paying attention to know who produced what. The presence of TSG does indicate that Disney put some non-zero amount into the $35 million.
From my reading, distributors typically get a % of the gross, not of the profits. So in this case, the statement about Poor Things needing to make ~$87 million (2.5x budget) in order for Disney to see any profit is most likely incorrect, but it would depend on how much they paid Element, etc. for the Lanthimos deal that they have in place -- Searchlight did The Favourite, Poor Things, and the upcoming Kinds of Kindness -- and how much they spent on marketing. Hitting $87 million would only serve to absolutely ensure that a profit was made.
I donāt even know what Poor Things is but considering how many times it was nominated it has be a film with some whiny actress delivering āthe message.ā
My understanding from reading around over the past couple weeks is that this is more or less a bandwidth problem with smaller distributors. A24 pushed for Past Lives and The Zone of Interest, but it came at The Iron Claw's expense. Likewise Searchlight and Poor Things, etc. Netflix apparently has the ability to push any and everything.
ETA: This is especially a shame for films like All of Us Strangers. It just got a nice little expansion last weekend, kept a pretty good per-screen average, but is going to be mercilessly cut down anyway to make room for Oscar-nominated movies. It's down from 17 to 4 screenings in my AMCs this coming weekend, and The Iron Claw is down to just 1. Meanwhile, Poor Things keeps 11, American Fiction is at 20, and a bunch of movies are back on screens at a $5 price point. They'll all be allowed to run for a number of weeks now. The power of the Oscars.
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TalkingHead
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Went to the trouble of seeing it in a theater here and almost walked out. Loathed it.
Disney Irish
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I agree, the ~$87M is just what would it would take to make everyone involved whole, not the figure before Disney sees $1. The same can be said for many Disney films, as Disney doesn't always self-finance or solely finance their films.
But that's too complex for the "Everything Disney releases loses money" crowd.
Man, you guys are making me curious to see it now. 15 (features) down, 23 to go.
TalkingHead
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For my money itās the worst screenplay of any of the awards films. Totally inert, superficial treatment. Nobody will ever mention this movie again after this seasonās Oscars (see also: Mank).
TP2000
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Who can get you in to shop at Company D on Friends & Family Day but she has to go with you...
Ghost93
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Maestro was the only Best Picture nominee I disliked. Shameless Oscar bait. The Iron Claw, All of us Strangers, May December, Are you There God? It's Me, Margaret, The Color Purple, A Thousand and One, Blackberry and even Saltburn would have been more deserving.
Tha Realest
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How did Disney-acquired Magazine Dreams do in terms of nominations?
I almost posted about Magazine Dreams last week. Searchlight returned the distribution rights to the filmmakers about a week ago. Given the circumstances around Jonathan Majors, I don't know if they were able to back out without penalty, or if Disney ended up losing anything in the deal.