I think it‘s a problem primarily created by too many likeminded people in one company with not enough dissenting voices to tell them their ideas will work great in places like CA and NY but will struggle in the rest of the country, and most of the world.
See I think it’s not a matter of “location”…
I’ve been visiting Disney for almost 40 years now and I’ve always seen them as more of a leader than a follower. I don’t think they’re as clueless as people make them out to seem.
The current management displays the air of “cluelessness” at present
I think they are reflecting reality, especially the logical continuation of reality stemming from the last 30+ years of history. Nobody expected this country to take a sudden jog in a certain direction like an errant hurricane. But ultimately, we will get over this hiccup, and the flyover states will have to wake up and deal with the reality that exists, namely: people other than straight white people belong in this country and will be reflected in films, including films "for" children.
www.the-numbers.com
I really like Ms Marvel, and so do a great many of the people who gave the series a chance - she's the most charismatic character in the MCU after Downey's Iron Man and her performance was universally critically acclaimed. In fact, I like the MCU in general, even if I think a few of their recent products have been lackluster. Unfortunately, these boards have been taken over by glib little trolls who delight in rooting for the failure of things people like regardless of quality, things that more often then not the trolls haven't seen. It's astoundingly small and petty, often driven by a desire to harm a perceived political "enemy."
I don’t think the boards have been taken over by trolls, and there really aren’t that many of them. It just seems so because of how often the same ones post the same tired stuff.
The numbers don’t look good. “Lack of faith” is trying to twist them or move the goal posts as to what determines “box office success”
I mean, I was once described as the man who overthrew Michael Eisner and elevated Bob Iger to his rightful place on the throne simply by my gin-soaked posts here. But I had no idea we had that much power to control the global box office too!
and talk about the raw power we wield, Darth.
Don’t you see?There's about one dozen of us posting in this thread regularly. There's probably three dozen more who stop in and skim, maybe drop a Like or two or an occasional comment, and then go back to doing laundry.
So... are you under the impression that the success or failure of The Marvels at the global box office is being determined by the one dozen regular posters here in this backwater sub-forum on a theme park website? Or for that matter, we're responsible for all of Disney's last 9 lavishly funded movies that never broke even at the box office and lost $800 Million in calendar year 2023?
I mean, I was once described as the man who overthrew Michael Eisner and elevated Bob Iger to his rightful place on the throne simply by my gin-soaked posts here. But I had no idea we had that much power to control the global box office too!
Tell me again why you didn't make time to go see it in the theater again? Nothing I said is off base. We saw a significant drop off from the other renaissance remake films. I didn't call the film bad. I said it wasn't what most wanted. If it was the film most fans wanted, why did we see such a big drop? It didn't do near what it should have.
If churning out great films such as mermaid can't get one of Disneys biggest defenders into the theater, I don't know what to tell you. I'm not really sure why wanting Disney to make higher quality movies and tv series is such a controversial take with you.
Absolutely he is, as well as a group of others on here. It's just easier to blame the audience than to actually hold Disney to a higher quality standard. It's always the same take, "you hate star wars and marvel because you're anti diversity!!!" Yet when examples of these same "toxic" fans fully embracing diversity gets completely ignored.
Read the boards. Actually read what they say, not what you want them to say because you don’t want to believe the truth about a lot of posters that agree with you. We’re told Disneys entire output is terrible. But are we given critical assessments of what’s wrong with the films? Discussions of cinematographic or directorial choices? No, the ONLY thing we’re told, over and over, is that the films are too woke, or, more often, that they “don’t give the audience what they want” (wink wink).
With regards to these folks, and it 100% carries over to the powers that be at TWDC, is hubris, they are all guilty of believing they can all do no wrong. They are oblivious to the fact that anyone wouldn't enjoy the product they put out as they cannot fathom the concept that anything they produce is not the greatest thing you've ever witnessed.
