Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Disney Irish]

Just so I know, what subset of immigrants is ALF?

ALF's story (whose real name is Gordon Shumway by the way) is almost exactly like Superman's and would be a refugee since Melmac was destroyed by war.

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

There have been zero billion dollar movies in 2025 not approved by the central committee…in reality

That will soon change when Lilo & Stitch hits that billion.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That will soon change when Lilo & Stitch hits that billion.

Thanks, Captain O. I think there’s was universal agreement on that around here already

 

[Nevermore525]

Elio passed $100M after Tuesday.

Elio (2025) - Box Office and Financial Information

Financial analysis of Elio (2025) including production budget, domestic and international box office gross, DVD and Blu-ray sales reports.

the-numbers.com

 

[Phroobar]

Elio passed $100M after Tuesday.

View attachment 869968

Elio (2025) - Box Office and Financial Information

Financial analysis of Elio (2025) including production budget, domestic and international box office gross, DVD and Blu-ray sales reports.

the-numbers.com

The very definition of striving for mediocrity.
That is only .7x its budget.

 

[Nevermore525]

The very definition of striving for mediocrity.
That is only .7x its budget.

Which is a shame, because it’s a better movie than a good chunk of the movies currently raking it in. It’s just not a safe IP sequel reboot audiences turn out for and has the added issue of being animated sci-fi

 

[Phroobar]

Which is a shame, because it’s a better movie than a good chunk of the movies currently raking it in. It’s just not a safe IP sequel reboot audiences turn out for and has the added issue of being animated sci-fi

I didn't think it was very good compared to previous Pixar offerings. Its on the bottom fifth to me.
Wall*E was animated sci-fi and it did just fine.

 

[Nevermore525]

I didn't think it was very good compared to previous Pixar offerings. Its on the bottom fifth to me.
Wall*E was animated sci-fi and it did just fine.

I was comparing it to the movies currently in theaters not previous Pixar entries. Also Wall*E is one of the few exceptions

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Which is a shame, because it’s a better movie than a good chunk of the movies currently raking it in. It’s just not a safe IP sequel reboot audiences turn out for and has the added issue of being animated sci-fi

We hear a lot of that lately

It couldn’t be…gasp …the BRAND that isn’t appealing, could it?

 

[Disney Irish]

We hear a lot of that lately

It couldn’t be…gasp …the BRAND that isn’t appealing, could it?

Anything is possible professor, but if that was the case then Inside Out 2 wouldn't have soared to ~$1.7B.

So unappealing brand issue I doubt is the problem.

 

[Phroobar]

I was comparing it to the movies currently in theaters not previous Pixar entries. Also Wall*E is one of the few exceptions

How to Train Your Dragon and F1 were great.
However it's kind of a pointless statement because most movies currently in theaters are mediocre at best.

 

[Nevermore525]

How to Train Your Dragon and F1 were great.
However it's kind of a pointless statement because most movies currently in theaters are mediocre at best.

I didn’t care for HTTYD because it was just HTTYD with actual people, other than the score being better it was just a ho-hum shot for shot remake. Certainly entertaining but not great

Lilo and Stitch mostly shot for shot decent but not great.

Haven’t caught F1 yet.

Jurassic Rebirth is two movies in one with no clue which way it wants to go and is messy, but hey cool dinosaurs!!

Same can be said for 28 Years Later being two movies in one which takes it down a peg for storytelling.

 

[Nevermore525]

Anything is possible professor, but if that was the case then Inside Out 2 wouldn't have soared to ~$1.7B.

So unappealing brand issue I doubt is the problem.

Next year we’ll probably see Hoppers flop, and if Toy Story still has juice in it

 

[Disney Irish]

Next year we’ll probably see Hoppers flop, and if Toy Story still has juice in it

Maybe we'll see.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Anything is possible professor, but if that was the case then Inside Out 2 wouldn't have soared to ~$1.7B.

So unappealing brand issue I doubt is the problem.

I think it’s a half truth

Inside out 2 had a ton of heart…and the brand rec…

Stitch - flaws aside - has a ton of heart especially for the last 30 minutes.

That’s the formula

What doesn’t seem to be working is “brand alone”. Like what had once worked for things such as the live actions and lesser quality Pixar flicks.

As always…things vary/change…but we can comment on trendlines

 

[erasure fan1]

Anything is possible professor, but if that was the case then Inside Out 2 wouldn't have soared to ~$1.7B.

So unappealing brand issue I doubt is the problem.

We hear a lot from you and some of the other people here that it's not the norm for big successful movies, the industry is shifting... Well I'd say inside out 2 isn't the norm. Just because one film killed it doesn't erase the brand erosion that's happened. Pixar was a must see theater event no matter what. That's just not the case anymore. Sure streaming hasn't helped but Disney and it's quality have been the biggest culprit in my opinion.

 

[DKampy]

I think it’s a half truth

Inside out 2 had a ton of heart…and the brand rec…

Stitch - flaws aside - has a ton of heart especially for the last 30 minutes.

That’s the formula

What doesn’t seem to be working is “brand alone”. Like what had once worked for things such as the live actions and lesser quality Pixar flicks.

As always…things vary/change…but we can comment on trendlines

Got it… so what is working… live action remakes and sequels…. Prepare for much more of that…. Sounds like the branding is not the issue…. as people are seeing recognizable brands

 

[Disney Irish]

I think it’s a half truth

Inside out 2 had a ton of heart…and the brand rec…

Stitch - flaws aside - has a ton of heart especially for the last 30 minutes.

That’s the formula

What doesn’t seem to be working is “brand alone”. Like what had once worked for things such as the live actions and lesser quality Pixar flicks.

As always…things vary/change…but we can comment on trendlines

So the "formula" is "known" properties? Because it can't just be about "heart". Because by all reports (including my own personal viewing) Elio has heart too, just like the other two.

I think what can be said is that consumers are not immediately going to go to an unknown property no matter the "brand".

 

[Nevermore525]

Moana 2 was a made for D+ movie and it showed at moments in quality. Still made over $1B.

Safe, recognition.

 

[Disney Irish]

We hear a lot from you and some of the other people here that it's not the norm for big successful movies, the industry is shifting... Well I'd say inside out 2 isn't the norm. Just because one film killed it doesn't erase the brand erosion that's happened. Pixar was a must see theater event no matter what. That's just not the case anymore. Sure streaming hasn't helped but Disney and it's quality have been the biggest culprit in my opinion.

I don't deny that some trust was lost in the "brand" due to some otherwise bad moves such as pushing some direct to streaming. But that doesn't explain why after all the positive reviews why some wouldn't just go and see it which would have built momentum. So that indicates to me that people are still more willing to wait to try an "unknown" property at home rather than risk seeing it at the cost of a ticket.

So again this get back to the debate on what impact streaming has on the overall box office.