minion803
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Perhaps Blue Sky should take the helm of a Figment Based film.....Hmmmm???
Perhaps Blue Sky should take the helm of a Figment Based film.....Hmmmm???
Hold, up... IS THIS A THING???
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News Disney and Fox come to terms -- announcement soon; huge IP acquisition
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Hold, up... IS THIS A THING???
trainplane3
Well-Known Member
Nope. Fan poster.
BoarderPhreak
Well-Known Member
LOL... Cablevision/Optimum (now part of French Altice) is the same way. They literally don't care. If they lose one customer, there will be five new ones right behind them. It's a captive market with very little to no competition. The alternative is what? Verizon FIOS or DirectTV? Ha. They stink for their own unique reasons as well as the usual.
The sooner a-la-carte comes of age over the Internet, the better. This is why Netflix and Hulu and all the others are booming (though it's the wild west currently). "Cable cutting" has entered the modern lexicon and it's here to stay.
the.dreamfinder
Well-Known Member
But those same providers still sell us over priced broadband.
BoarderPhreak
Well-Known Member
Oh, sure. But cutting the cable component will cut the bill down dramatically at least - it's the most expensive part. That makes it somewhat more palatable.
That would be a terrible deal for Universal. Get two lesser IPs and some small cash for a huge property like Marvel? No one would take that.
the.dreamfinder
Well-Known Member
They don’t make that much on Cable TV. It’s the monopoly they have on the wires in the ground and their ability to sell other profitible services like voice and security that makes them money.
BoarderPhreak
Well-Known Member
Sure, they're just pushing content licensed from upstream providers down those wires. It's their infrastructure (and that licensing) that costs them money.
the.dreamfinder
Well-Known Member
They spend money taking care of their infrastructure?!
BoarderPhreak
Well-Known Member
If you count replacing storm damaged sections, sure.They spend money taking care of their infrastructure?!
Disnutz311
Disney World Purist
Then what’s it worth to get the rights to Marvel? Just like the game of Monopoly. Everyone has a price. 250 Million?? Enough to re-theme the entire land in IOA? Yes I know Universal will probably hold on to the rights forever. But how much and/or what would you give?
the.dreamfinder
Well-Known Member
Try over a billion dollars.
That’s a start.
This is a crazy debate. Disney will not buy Marvel themepark rights from Universal. They may require Universal to pay to remove all Simpson lands just like they will have to do with Marvel in Japan in a few years. There is however a bigger issue for Universal fans to think about. Tax reform set a limit on interest deductions a company can take. Universal, if they buy Sky will have to add 31 billion dollars of debt. This is on top on the several billion dollars they have been adding each year. If they do buy Sky it most likely will reduce their ability to borrow money and write off the interest, thus forcing them to reduce spending on theme parks and If they have to spend money replacing the Simpson lands on both coasts and Marvel in Japan that is clearly going to slow down other projects.
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the.dreamfinder
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Correct. It’s a stupid debate to have because it would be an irresponsible waste of capital just to get the rights back BEFORE you have to pay WDI rates to build something on property.
A more productive discussion, which I bring up often, would be how Disney could force UNI to bring Marvel to parity with Harry Potter and Nintendo. But that would require Disney to give up shoving the couple characters they can use into the Florida parks.
Which brings us back to the status quo- a foolish company won’t allow a red hot character appear in an important market because their characters exist in a competitor’s park. It speaks to their lack of foresight and failure to understand they are in the generational goodwill building business, not a quarter to quarter grind.
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I've always thought that the better compromise would be for both parks in Orlando to have their own Marvel Lands. Give Uni the rights to use the Marvel characters they are locked out of (e.g., Gaurdians) and do the same for WDW. The MCU juggernaut can handle 6-10 Marvel rides in one town. Let them compete for who can do the better Marvel Land... which is going to happen anyway globally.
Quinnmac000
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Umm that would require a contract renegotiation which last time that contract is indefinite and will not be renegotiated because that deal is extremely tilted in Universal's favor.
What are you talking about? Comcast is on an foreign acquisition spree right now with tons of acquisitions job based in China, Japan, and the UK. This was already speculated that Comcast would buy some UK based company with the speculation being ITV while still spending billions on parks. Nothing has changed even if they get Sky. Comcast will continue to spend heavily on the parks because the ROI of their theme park investments has topped nearly every other investment they made.
the.dreamfinder
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Nothing’s stopping both parties from creating a supplementary agreement surrounding movie tie ins.
