Disney After Hours Event

sporadic

Well-Known Member
Looks like we picked the right year to spend our money elsewhere for vacationing. Hopefully the failure of this event will be an eye opener for Disney to start turning things around. With the scaling back of hours and migrating EMH to crap like this, I really don't want to go back right now. The time after Wishes use to be our favorite time in the parks.
 

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
So what's the point of your post? Either way, it was a flop.
Actually, I was asking what the point of your post was, since it had absolutely nothing to do with the talk of what happened at the after hours event. Just more mud-slinging at WDW by you. Of course, that's pretty much all you do nowadays.

And since you weren't paying for it anyway, why do you even care if it was a flop or not???
 

DVCOwner

A Long Time DVC Member
Others can do what they want with their own money

As for me, sure I'd do it, just never pay extra for what I can already get

I agree with you, so everyone should stop attacking those that went and said it was worth the money. I did not attend but could see that this was a good deal for someone that only could go one night.
 

raven

Well-Known Member
The amount of snarky comments and negative attitudes directed towards anyone who would attend this event is ridiculous and petty. Rubes, suckers, sheep, overpaying, are just a few of the terms being applied to people willing to pay $150 for a premium experience.

One could say the same thing about anyone visiting Walt Disney World. $45 buffets that would cost $20 in the real world. $109 to stay at a value resort. $4 for a bottled drink. Cruises that cost double what most lines charge. Buying DVC and never vacationing anywhere else.

When you mock someone who paid $150 to walk onto attractions without waiting for several hours, keep in mind there's someone out there who thinks you're an idiot for paying over $100 to visit a theme park at which you stand in long lines and pay premium prices for mediocre food.

I understand that Disney charges a premium and I have decided that it's worth it to me. Just as I don't want someone lecturing me for dropping a lot of money on a WDW vacation, I'm not going to mock or put down anyone who spent money on this event.
To each their own. I'm not paying for park entry either way, nor eating in the parks so the topic of "paying astronomical amounts" for anything at Disney is rediculous to me.
 

raven

Well-Known Member
Actually, I was asking what the point of your post was, since it had absolutely nothing to do with the talk of what happened at the after hours event. Just more mud-slinging at WDW by you. Of course, that's pretty much all you do nowadays.

And since you weren't paying for it anyway, why do you even care if it was a flop or not???

Didn't realize you had to be a fan boi on these boards.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
Looks like we picked the right year to spend our money elsewhere for vacationing.
How exactly would this impact you in even the slightest possible way?

With the scaling back of hours and migrating EMH to crap like this, I really don't want to go back right now. The time after Wishes use to be our favorite time in the parks.
There's absolutely zero evidence of "scaling back of hours" nor "migrating EMH to crap like this" apart from crybabies on the internet who like to make up boogeymen in their minds and then complain about them. It has never been the case that park hours are exactly the same year-after-year and there hasn't been a single cut to EMH.
 

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
Didn't realize you had to be a fan boi on these boards.
Of course not, but belittling people for paying money for an experience that you wouldn't pay for is small-minded. I would never pay to go to a Super Bowl, but obviously thousands of people do. I don't belittle them because they paid thousands of dollars to do something that I can do from my living room. See the point at all?
 

note2001

Well-Known Member
The people that bought tickets for last night are saying it was worth the price. Walk on at every ride and all the Mickey bars you could eat.

What demographic were these people who bought tickets? I can see the vloggers & bloggers paying as it is all a part of their self-made job. It also makes sense as it was the first night offered. I believe I saw snapshots of groups of teenagers. It's anyone's guess where they got the tickets from, I don't know many teens who would be able to afford the prices on their own, perhaps they were a part of the dvc group.

As for folks saying it was worth the price, I'll assume they were mostly locals, those who are sick and tired of tourists filling up the parks and getting in their way. (Refer back to the vlogger note above.)

However, while no one enjoys a 60 minute wait time for anything, there's a social dynamic going on with a few more folk waiting for and riding a ride that seems to have been missing from the event. Also remember, part of the magic is in the build up the ride queues create. If Disney is to make this work, the price needs to drop significantly & they need more guests in the park. I also think there needs to be some sort of entertainment offered just to keep the paths between rides alive. Even an automated sort such as a few random projections/interactions based on the magic band technology (I don't think they've fully explored what they can do with this yet.)
 
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raven

Well-Known Member
Of course not, but belittling people for paying money for an experience that you wouldn't pay for is small-minded. I would never pay to go to a Super Bowl, but obviously thousands of people do. I don't belittle them because they paid thousands of dollars to do something that I can do from my living room. See the point at all?
Never belittled anyone or called them names for going.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
I never said it was "wrong." I, like MANY others in this thread, believe it's yet another money-grabbing attempt by Disney which will be marketing this as a HUGE SUCCESS I'm sure.
Why would they market it as a huge success if it's not one? If it fails, they'll stop offering it. Simple as they. They have no reason to lie and claim something is successful if it's not.

(Insert counter-point about My Magic+ here.)

Yes, but My Magic+ was a multi-billion dollar capital investment that carried board approval and high scrutiny from Wall Street. This is a minor marketing initiative that can be quietly rolled back, no muss no fuss.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
And I think it's a waste of money to fly First Class on an airplane. That doesn't mean I begrudge first glass passengers, nor do I throw a tantrum at Delta Airlines for offering those seats.
Have you ever flown 1st class? It actually IS a premium experience.

Meanwhile, Disney tried(and failed) to get people to pay for something that has always been free. Short waits at the end of the night.
 

raven

Well-Known Member
Why would they market it as a huge success if it's not one? If it fails, they'll stop offering it. Simple as they. They have no reason to lie and claim something is successful if it's not.

(Insert counter-point about My Magic+ here.)

Yes, but My Magic+ was a multi-billion dollar capital investment that carried board approval and high scrutiny from Wall Street. This is a minor marketing initiative that can be quietly rolled back, no muss no fuss.
To raise interest in the event and make people think they should quickly get their tickets. Not unheard of in the advertising world.
 

Princess_AmyK

Well-Known Member
I don't think that this will fail. I hate to say it. I think there are enough people that would be willing to pay it. Will it be me? Absolutely not. i would rather spend the time making effective touring plans and save my money. But I know all of us who are active on forums and love planning and visit frequently, are the minority. Most people visit rarely, want to sleep in, and are willing to hand over the money that they have to in order to get the experience they want without having to put forth to much effort. Its less stressful to most people to buy a good experience than to research and plan out a good experience (like being there at rope drop when crowds are low, planning to avoid busy nights with events, etc.). Disney knows this, and they are going to profit from it.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
Have you ever flown 1st class? It actually IS a premium experience.
I wear $400 shoes but buy my shirts for $6 at the thrift store. The point is, neither "premium" nor "worth" are objectively definable characteristics. See also: Trump Steaks, Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique, or concierge level at the Polynesian. Premium for some, not for others. So what?

Meanwhile, Disney tried(and failed) to get people to pay for something that has always been free. Short waits at the end of the night.
What's the evidence they failed? Even if they failed, so what? Try something new. If you succeed, great. If you fail, what's the harm in having tried?
 

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
I never said it was "wrong." I, like MANY others in this thread, believe it's yet another money-grabbing attempt by Disney which will be marketing this as a HUGE SUCCESS I'm sure.

And I never said I keep going there. Just said I don't pay.
And that's one of the many things we disagree on. I don't believe that it was a simple money-grabbing attempt by Disney. I think they made an honest attempt to give people a different experience. Not everything that Disney does is nefarious, but some on these forums would have you believe that. I don't. Would I pay for it? No. Does it affect my trip if I don't pay for it? No. Do I care if someone wants to spend their vacation dollars on this? No, that's up to them. Why do you seem to care so vehemently about this???? How does it affect YOU?

There have always been experiences that people could pay extra for, going all the way back to the 70's when I first visited as an adult. Just because they are coming up with more of them, doesn't make it a bad thing. But you'll never be convinced of that, so we'll probably have to agree to disagree. :D
 

Wendy Pleakley

Well-Known Member
Premium prices for mediocre food? Really? Disney's food (QS at least) is pretty cheap and very good compared to almost any other entertainment offering. Try walking into a movie theater, Six Flags, or Yankee Stadium and getting a bottle of Coke for $2.50 or half a chicken with barbecue beans and corn bread for $12. You can't.

But yeah I agree with the rest of your point.

I agree the food at Disney is good. This was just a hypothetical example of how a "non-Disney" person might put down the average WDW visitor, many of whom are putting down the after hours attendees in similar fashion.
 

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