Disney After Hours Event

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I don't know if that would work since they're just giving people something that was available to everyone prior to Fastpass+. They need something that has never been done before in order to truly satisfy resort guests.
I hear what you're saying, but it would still potentially be a big perk to a lot of people. It was talked about pre-roll out of FP+ but never happened. They could tier it too. 3 FP per day for everyone. 4 for value guests, 5 for moderate and 6 for deluxe. They could also roll out resort guest only FP. For example, they could only offer FP reservations for shows/parades to resort guests or certain popular meet and greets. I think if they got creative it could be a pretty compelling perk to try to get people on property.

Edit: keep in mind too that EMHs costs money to run while offering extra FP reservations is free. It's a big reason I still think this will eventually happen.
 

raven

Well-Known Member
Extra FP reservations seems possible. The biggest advantage to the guest of opening early or staying open late is getting a chance to ride rides with less lines. The problem is they need more capacity to offer more FP reservations to all those on property guests.
Capacity IS the problem. But Disney created that themselves. They've doubled the amount of rooms they have in the past 10 years but have failed to provide extra space for all of those guests to spread out. The result? Over crowded parks. Their answer? Charge more money to thin out crowds instead of building more roaming space.
 

Baloo62

Well-Known Member
Capacity IS the problem. But Disney created that themselves. They've doubled the amount of rooms they have in the past 10 years but have failed to provide extra space for all of those guests to spread out. The result? Over crowded parks. Their answer? Charge more money to thin out crowds instead of building more roaming space.
This. A million times, this.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Capacity IS the problem. But Disney created that themselves. They've doubled the amount of rooms they have in the past 10 years but have failed to provide extra space for all of those guests to spread out. The result? Over crowded parks. Their answer? Charge more money to thin out crowds instead of building more roaming space.
Yep. Probably why this hasn't happened already. They had to add FP to rides that never needed it just to get to enough capacity for 3 per guest and they still have tiers in 2 parks due to lack of capacity. They will need a whole lot more than just the handful of new rides under construction to supply enough real new capacity to make this actually work. That doesn't mean they won't try it anyway.
 

raven

Well-Known Member
Yep. Probably why this hasn't happened already. They had to add FP to rides that never needed it just to get to enough capacity for 3 per guest and they still have tiers in 2 parks due to lack of capacity. They will need a whole lot more than just the handful of new rides under construction to supply enough real new capacity to make this actually work. That doesn't mean they won't try it anyway.
They need a 5th gate. Adding "lands" takes them years to complete. Well...changing an existing ride into a different theme does too for some reason, but they need to make more space right now.
 

Donaldfan1934

Well-Known Member
I hear what you're saying, but it would still potentially be a big perk to a lot of people. It was talked about pre-roll out of FP+ but never happened. They could tier it too. 3 FP per day for everyone. 4 for value guests, 5 for moderate and 6 for deluxe. They could also roll out resort guest only FP. For example, they could only offer FP reservations for shows/parades to resort guests or certain popular meet and greets. I think if they got creative it could be a pretty compelling perk to try to get people on property.

Edit: keep in mind too that EMHs costs money to run while offering extra FP reservations is free. It's a big reason I still think this will eventually happen.
Don't be giving them ideas now. This seems scarily plausible.
 

DisneyDaver

Well-Known Member
They need a 5th gate. Adding "lands" takes them years to complete. Well...changing an existing ride into a different theme does too for some reason, but they need to make more space right now.

WDW needs to fix Gates 2, 3 and 4 before contemplating a 5th Gate. And if you think adding "lands" takes years to complete, just wait to see how long it takes them to contract a 5th Gate ... I'm thinking 7-10 years from ground breaking?!?
 

GhostHost1000

Premium Member
WDW needs to fix Gates 2, 3 and 4 before contemplating a 5th Gate. And if you think adding "lands" takes years to complete, just wait to see how long it takes them to contract a 5th Gate ... I'm thinking 7-10 years from ground breaking?!?

Well hopefully AK and DHS are in the works to be fixed...magic kingdom is fine, well for now anyways (tomorrowland needs help but Epcot needs help much sooner). Fix future world soon and then figure out if or when a 5th gate could work

I know we've joked about 5th gates for years and all but @raven is right, a 5th gate as crazy as it may sound to some would really help spread crowds throughout parks, not just lands within a park which still bottlenecks various shows and transportation etc
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
WDW needs to fix Gates 2, 3 and 4 before contemplating a 5th Gate. And if you think adding "lands" takes years to complete, just wait to see how long it takes them to contract a 5th Gate ... I'm thinking 7-10 years from ground breaking?!?
They really need to do both...simultaneously. They won't, but that is what should/could be done. If Iger or the new CEO decided to have a second Disney decade they could very easily break ground on a 5th gate while building multiple new attractions in all 4 parks. In a 10 year period they could complete a 5th gate and add multiple new lands/attractions. They could also probably add another 10K+ hotel rooms with occupancy currently over 90%. I don't think this would ever happen because it would mean billions in capital projects and these days that money is still going to stock buybacks.
 

Dad 2 M & M

Well-Known Member
...as many times as we have stayed on property, we have not seen empty parks during EME hours until less than 1 hour before the EME ends....never 3 hours worth of "walk right on" rides...wanted to point that out...

Based of this thread, a couple of questions:

1) Was it really 300 purchased? Keep seeing that number quoted...
2) Is there really only 1,000 tickets available for each After Hours Event?
 

Brad Bishop

Well-Known Member
i think that if Disney wants to remove EMH, they'll have to find a worthy replacement that will be relatively equal resort perk that won't anger fans too much. Trying to create a worthy replacement is what I think has taken them so long, personally.

I don't know that that is true. They could simply stop offering EHMs (or, more likely, continue cutting them back until they no longer exist) and if the rooms keep filling up then it doesn't matter. Yeah, some would say, "Well, then it's not worth staying on-site," but that really doesn't matter if they have 90%+ occupancy rates. It was introduced to get more people to stay on-site.

There are plenty of people who'd stay on site just because it's more "magical" to them. I'm not making fun of them, that's how they feel and they want to be immersed in it. If having or not having EMH doesn't change that for them, and there's enough of them, then EMH makes no business sense.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
They really need to do both...simultaneously. They won't, but that is what should/could be done..
They certainly could.

Only an apologist would deny this was the company who built 2 new lakes, connecting canals, new highways, the Swan, the Dolphin, the Yacht Club,the Beach Club, Typhoon Lagoon, Pleasure Island, Wonders of Life, International Gateway and The Disney MGM Studios ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
 

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